2017 AAA

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What teams do you see in the top 6 next season?


Raiders Black - Still #1
Young Kings #Still #2 but will take some loses
Northern Saints Black - player who scores 75% of goals going up to AAA will take a step back to low end tier 1
SW Young Kings #3 Will stay the same
Purple Cobras - Lost their goalie who kept them in games will drop to low-end team
Northern Saints Gold - Lost 2 kids who scored 95% of goals this will be a tier 2 team.


New Top 5

Raiders
Kings
SWO
CIA
Niagara
Where did the CIA kids come from? Isn’t it the same coach and core from the Raiders Gold team?

Saints White should also be in the top 5 mix. They made some additions. There is also a Raiders White team which is GTA Aces core and plus a handful of new players.

Overall the loop should be pretty competitive.
Ya what is this CIA team and are they any good? Where did they play this past season? Can they actually compete in tier 1?

Also why are raiders so far ahead of everyone? Are they that good or is there just not much depth to the 2017 year?
Both, watch the clips of how they move the puck definitely way ahead of the curve. 2017 is also doesn't have depth and the raiders were able to get a core of the top Ontario kids together in U7 and have added more of them each year. Hard to catch a team thats coached well, has more skill and is still trying to get better players.
YK are on par with Raiders and have beat them many times. Sometimes by a lot. Raiders have 7-8 of the top kids while other teams might have 1-2 top kids. It’s hard to compete like that.
YK losing 3 important kids next year
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Raiders Black - Still #1
Young Kings #Still #2 but will take some loses
Northern Saints Black - player who scores 75% of goals going up to AAA will take a step back to low end tier 1
SW Young Kings #3 Will stay the same
Purple Cobras - Lost their goalie who kept them in games will drop to low-end team
Northern Saints Gold - Lost 2 kids who scored 95% of goals this will be a tier 2 team.


New Top 5

Raiders
Kings
SWO
CIA
Niagara
Where did the CIA kids come from? Isn’t it the same coach and core from the Raiders Gold team?

Saints White should also be in the top 5 mix. They made some additions. There is also a Raiders White team which is GTA Aces core and plus a handful of new players.

Overall the loop should be pretty competitive.
Ya what is this CIA team and are they any good? Where did they play this past season? Can they actually compete in tier 1?

Also why are raiders so far ahead of everyone? Are they that good or is there just not much depth to the 2017 year?
Both, watch the clips of how they move the puck definitely way ahead of the curve. 2017 is also doesn't have depth and the raiders were able to get a core of the top Ontario kids together in U7 and have added more of them each year. Hard to catch a team thats coached well, has more skill and is still trying to get better players.
YK are on par with Raiders and have beat them many times. Sometimes by a lot. Raiders have 7-8 of the top kids while other teams might have 1-2 top kids. It’s hard to compete like that.
YK losing 3 important kids next year
Where they going?
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Re: 2017 AAA

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Where did the CIA kids come from? Isn’t it the same coach and core from the Raiders Gold team?

Saints White should also be in the top 5 mix. They made some additions. There is also a Raiders White team which is GTA Aces core and plus a handful of new players.

Overall the loop should be pretty competitive.
Ya what is this CIA team and are they any good? Where did they play this past season? Can they actually compete in tier 1?

Also why are raiders so far ahead of everyone? Are they that good or is there just not much depth to the 2017 year?
Both, watch the clips of how they move the puck definitely way ahead of the curve. 2017 is also doesn't have depth and the raiders were able to get a core of the top Ontario kids together in U7 and have added more of them each year. Hard to catch a team thats coached well, has more skill and is still trying to get better players.
YK are on par with Raiders and have beat them many times. Sometimes by a lot. Raiders have 7-8 of the top kids while other teams might have 1-2 top kids. It’s hard to compete like that.
YK losing 3 important kids next year
Where they going?
two are going to Raiders Black (one of the top forwards and starting goalie). One up to u10 AAA, I think Don Mills Flyers.
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No.
Could you elaborate?
Top 2017s are and will continue to be in Klevr. If NYHL actually wants to build, they need to start at U7 or they somehow need to punish players and coaches for being involved in Klevr right before GTHL - but they won’t do that either.
"Are and will continue to be in klevr" is a dumb comment. You have no clue who will be a top player at 11, 13, 15. You clearly have no older children and are basing this on no facts. There's no historical data to base this on. Klevr promotes AAA training and mentality at a younger age which obviously will result in more skill at young ages. Whether or not you klevr kids can stand the test of time is nowhere near proven. Half the 2015s will be burnt out in 2 years and they're already starting to fade. The skill gap closes. You can skate little Johnny 20 times a day but come u14 AAA (if he can hang on that long), that advantage will diminish and athleticism, IQ take over. Enjoy your little feeling that your kid is so amazing at 7-8. You all are a joke.

As a parent with older kids playing real AAA G hockey, I'll give you some advice, stay humble and don't be ignorant. Karma catches up.
2017s only have one more year of Klevr and so far the new elite NYHL teams have nobody…so for next year, the top 2017s (who are currently in Klevr) will continue to be in Klevr. No one is going back to NYHL at this point and no one is talking about whether the same kids will be top for U11-U16. But for right now and likely next year the top are going to be Klevr. Pretty sure the question was about who the top 2017s are right now and not who they will be in 5 years. I doubt anyone knows that, but if you do based on your extensive experience, please elaborate. Also, you think the kids that are amazing right now aren’t athletic or have no hockey iq? Sure…

I know at least 2-3 18’17 going back local from a tier 1, due to travel, larger role on a tier 1 / MD team, cost, Klevr is great but also about choice.
For pro Klevr, ask yourselves how many squads are true AAA feeder… I would say distro going back to AA or A will mirror that on a percent basis of the G sanctioned and MD programs

here's the latest "rumor" for this coming season for Hockey Canada players
HC will announce Dec 1 for all U9 leagues YHL will be 3/4 ice not full?
NT does not have board approval from their own association to enter NYHL maybe they will enter anyway...?
George Bell operating as an MD team within CDP this season has caused friction what will they do next year?
Ted Reeve Super Team is not entering the NYHL - they will continue as rouge, rumor?
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Could you elaborate?
Top 2017s are and will continue to be in Klevr. If NYHL actually wants to build, they need to start at U7 or they somehow need to punish players and coaches for being involved in Klevr right before GTHL - but they won’t do that either.
"Are and will continue to be in klevr" is a dumb comment. You have no clue who will be a top player at 11, 13, 15. You clearly have no older children and are basing this on no facts. There's no historical data to base this on. Klevr promotes AAA training and mentality at a younger age which obviously will result in more skill at young ages. Whether or not you klevr kids can stand the test of time is nowhere near proven. Half the 2015s will be burnt out in 2 years and they're already starting to fade. The skill gap closes. You can skate little Johnny 20 times a day but come u14 AAA (if he can hang on that long), that advantage will diminish and athleticism, IQ take over. Enjoy your little feeling that your kid is so amazing at 7-8. You all are a joke.

As a parent with older kids playing real AAA G hockey, I'll give you some advice, stay humble and don't be ignorant. Karma catches up.
2017s only have one more year of Klevr and so far the new elite NYHL teams have nobody…so for next year, the top 2017s (who are currently in Klevr) will continue to be in Klevr. No one is going back to NYHL at this point and no one is talking about whether the same kids will be top for U11-U16. But for right now and likely next year the top are going to be Klevr. Pretty sure the question was about who the top 2017s are right now and not who they will be in 5 years. I doubt anyone knows that, but if you do based on your extensive experience, please elaborate. Also, you think the kids that are amazing right now aren’t athletic or have no hockey iq? Sure…

I know at least 2-3 18’17 going back local from a tier 1, due to travel, larger role on a tier 1 / MD team, cost, Klevr is great but also about choice.
For pro Klevr, ask yourselves how many squads are true AAA feeder… I would say distro going back to AA or A will mirror that on a percent basis of the G sanctioned and MD programs

here's the latest "rumor" for this coming season for Hockey Canada players
HC will announce Dec 1 for all U9 leagues YHL will be 3/4 ice not full?
NT does not have board approval from their own association to enter NYHL maybe they will enter anyway...?
George Bell operating as an MD team within CDP this season has caused friction what will they do next year?
Ted Reeve Super Team is not entering the NYHL - they will continue as rouge, rumor?
klvr all day...
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Top 2017s are and will continue to be in Klevr. If NYHL actually wants to build, they need to start at U7 or they somehow need to punish players and coaches for being involved in Klevr right before GTHL - but they won’t do that either.
"Are and will continue to be in klevr" is a dumb comment. You have no clue who will be a top player at 11, 13, 15. You clearly have no older children and are basing this on no facts. There's no historical data to base this on. Klevr promotes AAA training and mentality at a younger age which obviously will result in more skill at young ages. Whether or not you klevr kids can stand the test of time is nowhere near proven. Half the 2015s will be burnt out in 2 years and they're already starting to fade. The skill gap closes. You can skate little Johnny 20 times a day but come u14 AAA (if he can hang on that long), that advantage will diminish and athleticism, IQ take over. Enjoy your little feeling that your kid is so amazing at 7-8. You all are a joke.

As a parent with older kids playing real AAA G hockey, I'll give you some advice, stay humble and don't be ignorant. Karma catches up.
2017s only have one more year of Klevr and so far the new elite NYHL teams have nobody…so for next year, the top 2017s (who are currently in Klevr) will continue to be in Klevr. No one is going back to NYHL at this point and no one is talking about whether the same kids will be top for U11-U16. But for right now and likely next year the top are going to be Klevr. Pretty sure the question was about who the top 2017s are right now and not who they will be in 5 years. I doubt anyone knows that, but if you do based on your extensive experience, please elaborate. Also, you think the kids that are amazing right now aren’t athletic or have no hockey iq? Sure…

I know at least 2-3 18’17 going back local from a tier 1, due to travel, larger role on a tier 1 / MD team, cost, Klevr is great but also about choice.
For pro Klevr, ask yourselves how many squads are true AAA feeder… I would say distro going back to AA or A will mirror that on a percent basis of the G sanctioned and MD programs

here's the latest "rumor" for this coming season for Hockey Canada players
HC will announce Dec 1 for all U9 leagues YHL will be 3/4 ice not full?
NT does not have board approval from their own association to enter NYHL maybe they will enter anyway...?
George Bell operating as an MD team within CDP this season has caused friction what will they do next year?
Ted Reeve Super Team is not entering the NYHL - they will continue as rouge, rumor?
klvr all day...
Is this so called ted reeve super team actually any good? They have any Elite players? What KSL tier would they compete in? Do they crush everyone in their CDS or NYHL loop?
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Where do the GTA Aces teams stand for U9 and what levels are their players expected to end up in U10?
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TR team good, their loop goes
Oakville MD
Ted Reeve

HVS
VR (not allowed coaches)
NT

Perhaps TR and Oakville compete but lose to TR, YK but likely edge out MR and NS (making this all up since they wont play!)
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Guest wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 6:21 am TR team good, their loop goes
Oakville MD
Ted Reeve

HVS
VR (not allowed coaches)
NT

Perhaps TR and Oakville compete but lose to TR, YK but likely edge out MR and NS (making this all up since they wont play!)
With the exception of maybe Oakville, TR and others have been playing predominately 3/4 ice so it would be unfair to compare. I would imagine that they don't have the depth as most T1 Klevr teams by virtue of being community hockey programs (many of which lost top players to Klevr) but that's not to say there aren't a group of talented kids that will end up in AAA.
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Guest wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 12:04 am Where do the GTA Aces teams stand for U9 and what levels are their players expected to end up in U10?
They had 2-3 very strong players that should be a good core for U9. Assume that Aces will build around that for TT in U10.
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