Ottawa U18 2022/23 Season

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:41 pm

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The team that drafted him owns his rights until he's 18. Unless they trade him or give you a release, you can only affiliate to that CCHL team. Rarely do they give releases
Wouldn't that make every drafted player a free agent on their 18th birthday?
Yes. CCHL teams, just like other leagues, need to watch how they treat players. If a player continues to develop and now is a legitimate Jr.A player, they can consider ALL options, not just the one team that drafted them. How they were treated, may impact their decision.
Interesting. Where can I find out more information on this, specifically that an 18 year old is a free agent and does not need a release or trade to move on to another CCHL organization?
Go the website, try reading. If you can't get your answer, email the league. Or wait here for the absolute truth on everything!
I read before asking. Maybe I'm not reading the right information.

CCHL website https://www.thecchl.ca/protected-player ... s-drafting doesn't seem to say anything specific to age 18. It says players on the U18 active roster should be on the U17 list, and the U17 list shall be moved to that teams 40 player List for the off season.

The only thing I see regarding age and rights is for removal from a Team's 40 player list at age 19:
A player who is on a Team’s protection list, who is offered a Junior ‘A’ card by that Team, but refuses to sign said card can be placed on that Team’s 40-Player List and remain on said list until August 1st of that player’s 19th year.

As for emailing the league, great idea, but I want to know what I'm talking about before asking questions.

It can suck to be on a protected list but it is the way most Jr leagues work. Chances are if you little superstar can not make one team they will not another. If good enough just go play in another league.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:47 pm

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He has no lived experience with that crap league. He reads online and believes every word. Like you said, if you love it so much and it's so much better than the CCHL, go play there-nobody is stopping you.
If NCDC drops you, you play Premier. You know that going in. Where do you go if CCHL messes with you? Or cuts you in December. Junior B is not in same class as Premier or EHL. I haven't heard the NCDC investigated by anyone. I have heard HC is all over one franchise.
Junior B is much much better than Premier or EHL. Not even close.

NCDC is rogue, no rules. Good luck with your little utopia. You have no idea what you're talking about. I love it
Your credibility just hit rock bottom. Ehl alone gets 120 players a year into d3 schools.
Kemptville won’t make playoffs Again!
They have their entire team playing and look mediocre at best.

Preseason roster shows ten 03s and 04s skaters. Today's game sheet shows only four 03 and 04s were playing.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:51 pm

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He has no lived experience with that crap league. He reads online and believes every word. Like you said, if you love it so much and it's so much better than the CCHL, go play there-nobody is stopping you.
If NCDC drops you, you play Premier. You know that going in. Where do you go if CCHL messes with you? Or cuts you in December. Junior B is not in same class as Premier or EHL. I haven't heard the NCDC investigated by anyone. I have heard HC is all over one franchise.
Junior B is much much better than Premier or EHL. Not even close.

NCDC is rogue, no rules. Good luck with your little utopia. You have no idea what you're talking about. I love it
Your credibility just hit rock bottom. Ehl alone gets 120 players a year into d3 schools.
Prove it
Do a little research. EHL year after year provides numerous players to Div 3. Predominantly a 19 and 20 year old league.. They know what they are and do it well. Quite expensive though.

Numerous??? Thought you said 120?

Div 3 hockey, do you think this offers value and is worth the expense?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:58 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:41 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:15 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:10 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:52 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:28 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:28 pm

Wouldn't that make every drafted player a free agent on their 18th birthday?
Yes. CCHL teams, just like other leagues, need to watch how they treat players. If a player continues to develop and now is a legitimate Jr.A player, they can consider ALL options, not just the one team that drafted them. How they were treated, may impact their decision.
Interesting. Where can I find out more information on this, specifically that an 18 year old is a free agent and does not need a release or trade to move on to another CCHL organization?
Go the website, try reading. If you can't get your answer, email the league. Or wait here for the absolute truth on everything!
I read before asking. Maybe I'm not reading the right information.

CCHL website https://www.thecchl.ca/protected-player ... s-drafting doesn't seem to say anything specific to age 18. It says players on the U18 active roster should be on the U17 list, and the U17 list shall be moved to that teams 40 player List for the off season.

The only thing I see regarding age and rights is for removal from a Team's 40 player list at age 19:
A player who is on a Team’s protection list, who is offered a Junior ‘A’ card by that Team, but refuses to sign said card can be placed on that Team’s 40-Player List and remain on said list until August 1st of that player’s 19th year.

As for emailing the league, great idea, but I want to know what I'm talking about before asking questions.
It can suck to be on a protected list but it is the way most Jr leagues work. Chances are if you little superstar can not make one team they will not another. If good enough just go play in another league.

It isn't always about not making a team. Home vs billeting, education, change in organizations.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:02 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:58 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:41 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:15 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:10 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:52 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:28 pm

Yes. CCHL teams, just like other leagues, need to watch how they treat players. If a player continues to develop and now is a legitimate Jr.A player, they can consider ALL options, not just the one team that drafted them. How they were treated, may impact their decision.
Interesting. Where can I find out more information on this, specifically that an 18 year old is a free agent and does not need a release or trade to move on to another CCHL organization?
Go the website, try reading. If you can't get your answer, email the league. Or wait here for the absolute truth on everything!
I read before asking. Maybe I'm not reading the right information.

CCHL website https://www.thecchl.ca/protected-player ... s-drafting doesn't seem to say anything specific to age 18. It says players on the U18 active roster should be on the U17 list, and the U17 list shall be moved to that teams 40 player List for the off season.

The only thing I see regarding age and rights is for removal from a Team's 40 player list at age 19:
A player who is on a Team’s protection list, who is offered a Junior ‘A’ card by that Team, but refuses to sign said card can be placed on that Team’s 40-Player List and remain on said list until August 1st of that player’s 19th year.

As for emailing the league, great idea, but I want to know what I'm talking about before asking questions.
It can suck to be on a protected list but it is the way most Jr leagues work. Chances are if you little superstar can not make one team they will not another. If good enough just go play in another league.
It isn't always about not making a team. Home vs billeting, education, change in organizations.

That's life buddy, not everything can be perfect....a little diversity is good for a person.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:04 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:51 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:31 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:12 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:59 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:30 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 3:30 pm
If NCDC drops you, you play Premier. You know that going in. Where do you go if CCHL messes with you? Or cuts you in December. Junior B is not in same class as Premier or EHL. I haven't heard the NCDC investigated by anyone. I have heard HC is all over one franchise.
Junior B is much much better than Premier or EHL. Not even close.

NCDC is rogue, no rules. Good luck with your little utopia. You have no idea what you're talking about. I love it
Your credibility just hit rock bottom. Ehl alone gets 120 players a year into d3 schools.
Prove it
Do a little research. EHL year after year provides numerous players to Div 3. Predominantly a 19 and 20 year old league.. They know what they are and do it well. Quite expensive though.
Numerous??? Thought you said 120?

Div 3 hockey, do you think this offers value and is worth the expense?

Actually the number was over 160. EHL is geared to 19-20 year olds wanting to play college hockey and has a good history of league management. D3 hockey has some amazing programs (the top 10-15 could beat the lower end D1s). The quality of the hockey is very good and getting better. I don't think people realize how hard D1 is to get into for Canadians. The US is cranking out players in at an insane pace. I am hearing more kids looking at ACHA Div 1 (also known as club hockey). Whether or expensive or not depends. I know if a player has a 3.5+ GPA, there is more aid (merit) money. Point being, lots of options for kids and don't think they are too expensive. Parents and kids need to realize there are many junior options.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:11 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:02 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:58 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:41 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:15 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:10 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:52 pm

Interesting. Where can I find out more information on this, specifically that an 18 year old is a free agent and does not need a release or trade to move on to another CCHL organization?
Go the website, try reading. If you can't get your answer, email the league. Or wait here for the absolute truth on everything!
I read before asking. Maybe I'm not reading the right information.

CCHL website https://www.thecchl.ca/protected-player ... s-drafting doesn't seem to say anything specific to age 18. It says players on the U18 active roster should be on the U17 list, and the U17 list shall be moved to that teams 40 player List for the off season.

The only thing I see regarding age and rights is for removal from a Team's 40 player list at age 19:
A player who is on a Team’s protection list, who is offered a Junior ‘A’ card by that Team, but refuses to sign said card can be placed on that Team’s 40-Player List and remain on said list until August 1st of that player’s 19th year.

As for emailing the league, great idea, but I want to know what I'm talking about before asking questions.
It can suck to be on a protected list but it is the way most Jr leagues work. Chances are if you little superstar can not make one team they will not another. If good enough just go play in another league.
It isn't always about not making a team. Home vs billeting, education, change in organizations.
That's life buddy, not everything can be perfect....a little diversity is good for a person.

Billeting has become a real issue. Teams can't find good billet homes or at least enough to house what they need for away players. I know some teams have chosen local players at the expense of players needing billet homes. In the US it is more common to rent homes and have 4-5 players live in one. This is would be more for older players.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:08 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:04 am
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:51 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:31 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:12 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:59 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:30 pm

Junior B is much much better than Premier or EHL. Not even close.

NCDC is rogue, no rules. Good luck with your little utopia. You have no idea what you're talking about. I love it
Your credibility just hit rock bottom. Ehl alone gets 120 players a year into d3 schools.
Prove it
Do a little research. EHL year after year provides numerous players to Div 3. Predominantly a 19 and 20 year old league.. They know what they are and do it well. Quite expensive though.
Numerous??? Thought you said 120?

Div 3 hockey, do you think this offers value and is worth the expense?
Actually the number was over 160. EHL is geared to 19-20 year olds wanting to play college hockey and has a good history of league management. D3 hockey has some amazing programs (the top 10-15 could beat the lower end D1s). The quality of the hockey is very good and getting better. I don't think people realize how hard D1 is to get into for Canadians. The US is cranking out players in at an insane pace. I am hearing more kids looking at ACHA Div 1 (also known as club hockey). Whether or expensive or not depends. I know if a player has a 3.5+ GPA, there is more aid (merit) money. Point being, lots of options for kids and don't think they are too expensive. Parents and kids need to realize there are many junior options.

So you have non8dea how many players get D3 commits!? 120, over 160, let's just throw out any number and have people accept it.

My friend's son got a D3 offer. School is $45 K US a year. They gave them 15$k. $30 K US, then health insurance, and other expenses and it's about $42K Cdn a year. Hockwy is ok at best and school is a big unknown. Then you add in travel to get home twice a year, sure bud that's worth it.

Even D1 schools in the US, some are very low quality academically.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:09 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:02 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:58 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:41 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:15 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:10 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:52 pm

Interesting. Where can I find out more information on this, specifically that an 18 year old is a free agent and does not need a release or trade to move on to another CCHL organization?
Go the website, try reading. If you can't get your answer, email the league. Or wait here for the absolute truth on everything!
I read before asking. Maybe I'm not reading the right information.

CCHL website https://www.thecchl.ca/protected-player ... s-drafting doesn't seem to say anything specific to age 18. It says players on the U18 active roster should be on the U17 list, and the U17 list shall be moved to that teams 40 player List for the off season.

The only thing I see regarding age and rights is for removal from a Team's 40 player list at age 19:
A player who is on a Team’s protection list, who is offered a Junior ‘A’ card by that Team, but refuses to sign said card can be placed on that Team’s 40-Player List and remain on said list until August 1st of that player’s 19th year.

As for emailing the league, great idea, but I want to know what I'm talking about before asking questions.
It can suck to be on a protected list but it is the way most Jr leagues work. Chances are if you little superstar can not make one team they will not another. If good enough just go play in another league.
It isn't always about not making a team. Home vs billeting, education, change in organizations.
That's life buddy, not everything can be perfect....a little diversity is good for a person.

You mean you want to chose what diversity others should experience. Have you always been a control freak?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:11 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:15 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:10 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:52 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:28 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:28 pm
Guest wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:36 pm

The team that drafted him owns his rights until he's 18. Unless they trade him or give you a release, you can only affiliate to that CCHL team. Rarely do they give releases
Wouldn't that make every drafted player a free agent on their 18th birthday?
Yes. CCHL teams, just like other leagues, need to watch how they treat players. If a player continues to develop and now is a legitimate Jr.A player, they can consider ALL options, not just the one team that drafted them. How they were treated, may impact their decision.
Interesting. Where can I find out more information on this, specifically that an 18 year old is a free agent and does not need a release or trade to move on to another CCHL organization?
Go the website, try reading. If you can't get your answer, email the league. Or wait here for the absolute truth on everything!
I read before asking. Maybe I'm not reading the right information.

CCHL website https://www.thecchl.ca/protected-player ... s-drafting doesn't seem to say anything specific to age 18. It says players on the U18 active roster should be on the U17 list, and the U17 list shall be moved to that teams 40 player List for the off season.

The only thing I see regarding age and rights is for removal from a Team's 40 player list at age 19:
A player who is on a Team’s protection list, who is offered a Junior ‘A’ card by that Team, but refuses to sign said card can be placed on that Team’s 40-Player List and remain on said list until August 1st of that player’s 19th year.

As for emailing the league, great idea, but I want to know what I'm talking about before asking questions.

So you don't want to email the league.

Fine, just stay in limbo and not know where you stand. Or go to that utopian league the NCDC, and roll the dice! Ahahahaha

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