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Re: Fair and Equal Ice-Time

by 2010GoalieDad » Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:41 pm

So, what if a goalie gets injured outside of hockey during school and misses several weeks?

Should he be entitled to get back at least some of his games? What are the rules, if any, here?

Thanks.

Re: Fair and Equal Ice-Time

by Guest » Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:13 pm

Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 8:16 pm Listen, I’m just gonna be 100% honest, when the coach doesn’t play my son as much as I think he should be playing him. We quit the team and we move onto the next team. Easy peasy!
Can't do that in OMHA, you're stuck, if the coach sticks around for 3-4 years and doesn't play your kid for PP PK or the third period ever your kid's development is over.

Re: Fair and Equal Ice-Time

by Guest » Fri Oct 25, 2024 8:16 pm

Listen, I’m just gonna be 100% honest, when the coach doesn’t play my son as much as I think he should be playing him. We quit the team and we move onto the next team. Easy peasy!

Re: Fair and Equal Ice-Time

by Guest » Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:44 pm

Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:24 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:20 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:43 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:40 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:57 am
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:32 am
Stop whining and go to another team then.

Top teams play their best players. Whine and complain and your kid will get less and less ice time.

This is not true and if it is, that coach should not be teaching young children. Top teams develop and play ALL their players. Lazy, incompetent coaches only play their best players.

And don't whine and complain. Mention it ONE time to your coach and if there isn't an immediate change, take it directly to the GTHL. Simple.
You ask any AAA coach if he plays his best players the majority of the time and see what he says. Deny it all you want, it’s happening. GTHL will do nothing. I know of coaches doing it even at the AA level.
If your kid is one of the ones sitting then you are the suckers who are paying for other kids to play. Move down a division to where your kid is the star and maybe we get the kids who should not be in rep moved back to HL.

Don’t feel bad about it either because even some of the best AAA players will eventually get cut too whether it be OHL, World Junior or NHL.


I agree about moving down a level, I know somebody who’s paying big money for their kid to play in AAA. He literally plays 2 minutes a game that’s been recorded and published from last years stats 2 minutes a game! Paying thousands and thousands of dollars just to say your kid plays AAA.
Peanuts for some, whats 100k, look at Hyman, dad started all this chaos. But it was required to keep up with the US programs, you need paid coaches and unfortunately there are always scum bags, that are not good coaches that take cash. You can tell by how they skate…

Re: Fair and Equal Ice-Time

by Guest » Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:24 pm

Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:20 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:43 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:40 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:57 am
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:32 am
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:27 am

In an ideal world you are correct. However, you are ignoring coaches that play favorites, as many do. They don't care about extra effort and will try to put the spotlight on theirs and friends' kids. Starts with ice-time and development opportunities, and ends with manipulations of points in Gamesheet.
Enforcement of fair and equal ice-time rules starts to address this behavior.
Stop whining and go to another team then.

Top teams play their best players. Whine and complain and your kid will get less and less ice time.

This is not true and if it is, that coach should not be teaching young children. Top teams develop and play ALL their players. Lazy, incompetent coaches only play their best players.

And don't whine and complain. Mention it ONE time to your coach and if there isn't an immediate change, take it directly to the GTHL. Simple.
You ask any AAA coach if he plays his best players the majority of the time and see what he says. Deny it all you want, it’s happening. GTHL will do nothing. I know of coaches doing it even at the AA level.
If your kid is one of the ones sitting then you are the suckers who are paying for other kids to play. Move down a division to where your kid is the star and maybe we get the kids who should not be in rep moved back to HL.

Don’t feel bad about it either because even some of the best AAA players will eventually get cut too whether it be OHL, World Junior or NHL.


I agree about moving down a level, I know somebody who’s paying big money for their kid to play in AAA. He literally plays 2 minutes a game that’s been recorded and published from last years stats 2 minutes a game! Paying thousands and thousands of dollars just to say your kid plays AAA.

Re: Fair and Equal Ice-Time

by Guest » Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:20 pm

Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:43 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:40 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:57 am
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:32 am
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:27 am
Guest wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:36 pm

hmmm.... some of you have fair and equal a$$ backwards. kids that put in the extra effort, the ones that shoot pucks and train on off days, the ones who focus on eating well and getting enough sleep because it pays dividends in terms of their performance, the ones who are focused on developing on and off the ice... those kids typically earn the most ice. If your kid is gaming 2 hours a day, not eating clean, nott getting proper rest, not training when they're away from the rink, than your kid doesn't deserve the same ice as someone who is doing these things. this assumes they're in a competitive program.

FAIR IS NOT EQUAL. fair is rewarding hard work. all you people whining that your kid isn't getting ice, look at their work ethic off the ice and then put forth your arguments. I have zero qualms with my kid riding the pine if he isn't putting in the work. the lesson is clear here and it's what all the snowflakes out there haven't learned. coaches are there to develop your kids but your kids have to actually put in the work even after they leave the rink if they want to develop at the same rate as someone who does.
In an ideal world you are correct. However, you are ignoring coaches that play favorites, as many do. They don't care about extra effort and will try to put the spotlight on theirs and friends' kids. Starts with ice-time and development opportunities, and ends with manipulations of points in Gamesheet.
Enforcement of fair and equal ice-time rules starts to address this behavior.
Stop whining and go to another team then.

Top teams play their best players. Whine and complain and your kid will get less and less ice time.

This is not true and if it is, that coach should not be teaching young children. Top teams develop and play ALL their players. Lazy, incompetent coaches only play their best players.

And don't whine and complain. Mention it ONE time to your coach and if there isn't an immediate change, take it directly to the GTHL. Simple.
You ask any AAA coach if he plays his best players the majority of the time and see what he says. Deny it all you want, it’s happening. GTHL will do nothing. I know of coaches doing it even at the AA level.
If your kid is one of the ones sitting then you are the suckers who are paying for other kids to play. Move down a division to where your kid is the star and maybe we get the kids who should not be in rep moved back to HL.

Don’t feel bad about it either because even some of the best AAA players will eventually get cut too whether it be OHL, World Junior or NHL.

Re: Fair and Equal Ice-Time

by Guest » Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:43 pm

Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:40 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:57 am
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:32 am
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:27 am
Guest wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:36 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:02 pm
Canadian hockey is falling behind. Coaches need to put their ego aside and focus on development. There are plenty of good kids who didn't go far because coaches focused on winning. It's often too late once these early superstars realize that winning isn't sufficient.
hmmm.... some of you have fair and equal a$$ backwards. kids that put in the extra effort, the ones that shoot pucks and train on off days, the ones who focus on eating well and getting enough sleep because it pays dividends in terms of their performance, the ones who are focused on developing on and off the ice... those kids typically earn the most ice. If your kid is gaming 2 hours a day, not eating clean, nott getting proper rest, not training when they're away from the rink, than your kid doesn't deserve the same ice as someone who is doing these things. this assumes they're in a competitive program.

FAIR IS NOT EQUAL. fair is rewarding hard work. all you people whining that your kid isn't getting ice, look at their work ethic off the ice and then put forth your arguments. I have zero qualms with my kid riding the pine if he isn't putting in the work. the lesson is clear here and it's what all the snowflakes out there haven't learned. coaches are there to develop your kids but your kids have to actually put in the work even after they leave the rink if they want to develop at the same rate as someone who does.
In an ideal world you are correct. However, you are ignoring coaches that play favorites, as many do. They don't care about extra effort and will try to put the spotlight on theirs and friends' kids. Starts with ice-time and development opportunities, and ends with manipulations of points in Gamesheet.
Enforcement of fair and equal ice-time rules starts to address this behavior.
Stop whining and go to another team then.

Top teams play their best players. Whine and complain and your kid will get less and less ice time.

This is not true and if it is, that coach should not be teaching young children. Top teams develop and play ALL their players. Lazy, incompetent coaches only play their best players.

And don't whine and complain. Mention it ONE time to your coach and if there isn't an immediate change, take it directly to the GTHL. Simple.
You ask any AAA coach if he plays his best players the majority of the time and see what he says. Deny it all you want, it’s happening. GTHL will do nothing. I know of coaches doing it even at the AA level.

Re: Fair and Equal Ice-Time

by Guest » Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:40 pm

Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:57 am
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:32 am
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:27 am
Guest wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:36 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:02 pm
Guest wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:47 pm

No one will do equal ice time especially on top teams. Maybe the mid pack and bottom feeders have problems, bur top teams will be quiet as a church
Canadian hockey is falling behind. Coaches need to put their ego aside and focus on development. There are plenty of good kids who didn't go far because coaches focused on winning. It's often too late once these early superstars realize that winning isn't sufficient.
hmmm.... some of you have fair and equal a$$ backwards. kids that put in the extra effort, the ones that shoot pucks and train on off days, the ones who focus on eating well and getting enough sleep because it pays dividends in terms of their performance, the ones who are focused on developing on and off the ice... those kids typically earn the most ice. If your kid is gaming 2 hours a day, not eating clean, nott getting proper rest, not training when they're away from the rink, than your kid doesn't deserve the same ice as someone who is doing these things. this assumes they're in a competitive program.

FAIR IS NOT EQUAL. fair is rewarding hard work. all you people whining that your kid isn't getting ice, look at their work ethic off the ice and then put forth your arguments. I have zero qualms with my kid riding the pine if he isn't putting in the work. the lesson is clear here and it's what all the snowflakes out there haven't learned. coaches are there to develop your kids but your kids have to actually put in the work even after they leave the rink if they want to develop at the same rate as someone who does.
In an ideal world you are correct. However, you are ignoring coaches that play favorites, as many do. They don't care about extra effort and will try to put the spotlight on theirs and friends' kids. Starts with ice-time and development opportunities, and ends with manipulations of points in Gamesheet.
Enforcement of fair and equal ice-time rules starts to address this behavior.
Stop whining and go to another team then.

Top teams play their best players. Whine and complain and your kid will get less and less ice time.

This is not true and if it is, that coach should not be teaching young children. Top teams develop and play ALL their players. Lazy, incompetent coaches only play their best players.

And don't whine and complain. Mention it ONE time to your coach and if there isn't an immediate change, take it directly to the GTHL. Simple.

Re: Fair and Equal Ice-Time

by Guest » Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:34 pm

Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 11:51 am
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:57 am
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:32 am
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:27 am
Guest wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:36 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:02 pm
Canadian hockey is falling behind. Coaches need to put their ego aside and focus on development. There are plenty of good kids who didn't go far because coaches focused on winning. It's often too late once these early superstars realize that winning isn't sufficient.
hmmm.... some of you have fair and equal a$$ backwards. kids that put in the extra effort, the ones that shoot pucks and train on off days, the ones who focus on eating well and getting enough sleep because it pays dividends in terms of their performance, the ones who are focused on developing on and off the ice... those kids typically earn the most ice. If your kid is gaming 2 hours a day, not eating clean, nott getting proper rest, not training when they're away from the rink, than your kid doesn't deserve the same ice as someone who is doing these things. this assumes they're in a competitive program.

FAIR IS NOT EQUAL. fair is rewarding hard work. all you people whining that your kid isn't getting ice, look at their work ethic off the ice and then put forth your arguments. I have zero qualms with my kid riding the pine if he isn't putting in the work. the lesson is clear here and it's what all the snowflakes out there haven't learned. coaches are there to develop your kids but your kids have to actually put in the work even after they leave the rink if they want to develop at the same rate as someone who does.
In an ideal world you are correct. However, you are ignoring coaches that play favorites, as many do. They don't care about extra effort and will try to put the spotlight on theirs and friends' kids. Starts with ice-time and development opportunities, and ends with manipulations of points in Gamesheet.
Enforcement of fair and equal ice-time rules starts to address this behavior.
Stop whining and go to another team then.

Top teams play their best players. Whine and complain and your kid will get less and less ice time.
Make smaller rosters then. The parents whose kid plays cN pay for it.
Your kid must really suck that you have to come here complaining

Re: Fair and Equal Ice-Time

by Guest » Fri Oct 25, 2024 11:51 am

Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:57 am
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:32 am
Guest wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:27 am
Guest wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:36 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:02 pm
Guest wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:47 pm

No one will do equal ice time especially on top teams. Maybe the mid pack and bottom feeders have problems, bur top teams will be quiet as a church
Canadian hockey is falling behind. Coaches need to put their ego aside and focus on development. There are plenty of good kids who didn't go far because coaches focused on winning. It's often too late once these early superstars realize that winning isn't sufficient.
hmmm.... some of you have fair and equal a$$ backwards. kids that put in the extra effort, the ones that shoot pucks and train on off days, the ones who focus on eating well and getting enough sleep because it pays dividends in terms of their performance, the ones who are focused on developing on and off the ice... those kids typically earn the most ice. If your kid is gaming 2 hours a day, not eating clean, nott getting proper rest, not training when they're away from the rink, than your kid doesn't deserve the same ice as someone who is doing these things. this assumes they're in a competitive program.

FAIR IS NOT EQUAL. fair is rewarding hard work. all you people whining that your kid isn't getting ice, look at their work ethic off the ice and then put forth your arguments. I have zero qualms with my kid riding the pine if he isn't putting in the work. the lesson is clear here and it's what all the snowflakes out there haven't learned. coaches are there to develop your kids but your kids have to actually put in the work even after they leave the rink if they want to develop at the same rate as someone who does.
In an ideal world you are correct. However, you are ignoring coaches that play favorites, as many do. They don't care about extra effort and will try to put the spotlight on theirs and friends' kids. Starts with ice-time and development opportunities, and ends with manipulations of points in Gamesheet.
Enforcement of fair and equal ice-time rules starts to address this behavior.
Stop whining and go to another team then.

Top teams play their best players. Whine and complain and your kid will get less and less ice time.
Make smaller rosters then. The parents whose kid plays cN pay for it.

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