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Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke

by Guest » Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:19 am

It’s an “unbalanced joke” but you’re dying for your kid to play it. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke

by Guest » Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:40 pm

No One Cares! The best coaches, get the best kids..

Its how life works man,

Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke

by Guest » Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:32 pm

We really need to get together and make sure there is parity at all levels of minor hockey .. from AAA to house league. Yes, AAA is competitive BUT is not balanced from a skill base at the start of the year. This is critical step .. make sure it is balanced at the start of the year and then go nuts. It takes a collective effort to make this happen.

Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke

by Guest » Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:36 am

Guest wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:11 am
Guest wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:13 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:01 am
Guest wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:42 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:57 pm
Guest wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:38 pm

It's not about winning... it's about $$$$$$$$
Open borders means it is about to get a whole lot worse for parity outside the G





Tell us your kid didn’t make AAA without telling us your kid didn’t make AAA.
I am a huge fan of 'convening' at all levels including AAA. The convening is a two step process, one is with the Board of the AAA team and one is with the G itself. The culture of the AAA loop should be 'parity' across the 12 teams. This will be of benefit to all AAA players including the ones on the supposedly top talented team. New player needs to go through a convening process .. best for this player to go to team X as he is too good for team Y. You get the idea. Parents and kids need to see the forest through the trees.
Shut up nerd
Again it won’t happen. Parents and coaches colluding as early as age 6 to have a team put together for U10.


Only way to have any parity would be a draft.

Sounds like someone’s upset they didn’t get picked for the cool kids’ table. Maybe it’s time to let it go and focus on your own game instead of everyone else’s.

Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke

by OMHA Dad » Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:09 am

Guest wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:11 am
Guest wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:13 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:01 am
Guest wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:42 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:57 pm
Guest wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:38 pm

It's not about winning... it's about $$$$$$$$
Open borders means it is about to get a whole lot worse for parity outside the G





Tell us your kid didn’t make AAA without telling us your kid didn’t make AAA.
I am a huge fan of 'convening' at all levels including AAA. The convening is a two step process, one is with the Board of the AAA team and one is with the G itself. The culture of the AAA loop should be 'parity' across the 12 teams. This will be of benefit to all AAA players including the ones on the supposedly top talented team. New player needs to go through a convening process .. best for this player to go to team X as he is too good for team Y. You get the idea. Parents and kids need to see the forest through the trees.
Shut up nerd
Again it won’t happen. Parents and coaches colluding as early as age 6 to have a team put together for U10.


Only way to have any parity would be a draft.
There is a lot of cutthroat behaviour in a city that votes NDP…

Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke

by Guest » Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:11 am

Guest wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:13 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:01 am
Guest wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:42 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:57 pm
Guest wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:38 pm
Guest wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:30 pm The GTHL is terribly run league. It's essentially 2 tiers built into 1.

the top 4 teams are one level, and the bottom 8 are the next. What this means is that for the most part the top 4 teams will always win against the bottom 8. If a player develops over a season or two on a 7/8/9/10 whatever team, he'll be picked up by a top four team and move.

This terrible for player development, as league parity and testing yourself in competition of an equal caliber are key components over the LONG journey of development. What the GTHL has done is create all-star teams, and they have made winning easy for these players. What they don't develop though is the character components. Things like how to find an extra gear when you're down, how to lose with class-figure out what went wrong, what you can do better, and come out hungrier to win next time. Players lack resiliency and don't know what it's like to lose.

The US NTDP is the best format, and they set it up for these teams to lose more than they win. Imagine that.
It's not about winning... it's about $$$$$$$$
Open borders means it is about to get a whole lot worse for parity outside the G





Tell us your kid didn’t make AAA without telling us your kid didn’t make AAA.
I am a huge fan of 'convening' at all levels including AAA. The convening is a two step process, one is with the Board of the AAA team and one is with the G itself. The culture of the AAA loop should be 'parity' across the 12 teams. This will be of benefit to all AAA players including the ones on the supposedly top talented team. New player needs to go through a convening process .. best for this player to go to team X as he is too good for team Y. You get the idea. Parents and kids need to see the forest through the trees.
Shut up nerd
Again it won’t happen. Parents and coaches colluding as early as age 6 to have a team put together for U10.


Only way to have any parity would be a draft.

Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke

by Guest » Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:13 pm

Guest wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:01 am
Guest wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:42 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:57 pm
Guest wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:38 pm
Guest wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:30 pm The GTHL is terribly run league. It's essentially 2 tiers built into 1.

the top 4 teams are one level, and the bottom 8 are the next. What this means is that for the most part the top 4 teams will always win against the bottom 8. If a player develops over a season or two on a 7/8/9/10 whatever team, he'll be picked up by a top four team and move.

This terrible for player development, as league parity and testing yourself in competition of an equal caliber are key components over the LONG journey of development. What the GTHL has done is create all-star teams, and they have made winning easy for these players. What they don't develop though is the character components. Things like how to find an extra gear when you're down, how to lose with class-figure out what went wrong, what you can do better, and come out hungrier to win next time. Players lack resiliency and don't know what it's like to lose.

The US NTDP is the best format, and they set it up for these teams to lose more than they win. Imagine that.
It's not about winning... it's about $$$$$$$$
Open borders means it is about to get a whole lot worse for parity outside the G





Tell us your kid didn’t make AAA without telling us your kid didn’t make AAA.
I am a huge fan of 'convening' at all levels including AAA. The convening is a two step process, one is with the Board of the AAA team and one is with the G itself. The culture of the AAA loop should be 'parity' across the 12 teams. This will be of benefit to all AAA players including the ones on the supposedly top talented team. New player needs to go through a convening process .. best for this player to go to team X as he is too good for team Y. You get the idea. Parents and kids need to see the forest through the trees.
Shut up nerd

Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke

by Guest » Sat Dec 21, 2024 12:53 pm

Guest wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:44 am
Guest wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:19 am
Guest wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:01 am
Guest wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:42 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:57 pm
Guest wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:38 pm

It's not about winning... it's about $$$$$$$$
Open borders means it is about to get a whole lot worse for parity outside the G





Tell us your kid didn’t make AAA without telling us your kid didn’t make AAA.
I am a huge fan of 'convening' at all levels including AAA. The convening is a two step process, one is with the Board of the AAA team and one is with the G itself. The culture of the AAA loop should be 'parity' across the 12 teams. This will be of benefit to all AAA players including the ones on the supposedly top talented team. New player needs to go through a convening process .. best for this player to go to team X as he is too good for team Y. You get the idea. Parents and kids need to see the forest through the trees.
This process totally overlooks the fact that some organizations have more resources and work harder than others. It punishes the good and rewards the mediocre and poor. If I have better coaching, more ice time, provide dryland training, do baseline testing, have nutritional expertise, seek out top level competition and have a structured educational component there is a good chance I will be able to attract top calibre players to my program. Whereas a program not offering these elements or not prepared to work hard shouldn’t be rewarded by a distribution which aims for parity, better described as mediocrity. Why punish those individuals who put in the time and work to build something special versus the lazy complainers?
You don't get it. Hockey Canada sets the condition for expectations at the rep level. Both from coaching, ice time, game time, development, culture .. all of it. It is your job to follow it!! Not 'tweak it', not 'add to it', not provide a team that is outside expectations from Hockey Canada. If you feel differently, work with Hockey Canada and reset expectations across AAA or across rep so all teams understand the criteria and meet the criteria. You attracting the 17 kids that both want, pay and receive a program that is set differently from the others smells bad. You don't 'punish' individuals, you get those individuals spread across all teams so they bring the entire competition loop up. Show some leadership Pal.
Are you kidding! Are you seriously saying you shouldn't go an extra mile, do something more than just follow like sheep? Why would you treat the indifferent, lazy organization the same as one who sets the bar much higher? I've worked with HC, been part of the POE and I can assure you HC and the G embrace those successful organizations and teams and laud their performances. Far too many organizations set the bar far too low then complain when they can't compete. They would rather tear a team down than put in the extra effort to be successful themselves. I'm sorry this is competitive hockey and not everyone is created equal.

Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke

by Guest » Sat Dec 21, 2024 12:07 pm

Guest wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:44 am
Guest wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:19 am
Guest wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:01 am
Guest wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:42 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:57 pm
Guest wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:38 pm

It's not about winning... it's about $$$$$$$$
Open borders means it is about to get a whole lot worse for parity outside the G





Tell us your kid didn’t make AAA without telling us your kid didn’t make AAA.
I am a huge fan of 'convening' at all levels including AAA. The convening is a two step process, one is with the Board of the AAA team and one is with the G itself. The culture of the AAA loop should be 'parity' across the 12 teams. This will be of benefit to all AAA players including the ones on the supposedly top talented team. New player needs to go through a convening process .. best for this player to go to team X as he is too good for team Y. You get the idea. Parents and kids need to see the forest through the trees.
This process totally overlooks the fact that some organizations have more resources and work harder than others. It punishes the good and rewards the mediocre and poor. If I have better coaching, more ice time, provide dryland training, do baseline testing, have nutritional expertise, seek out top level competition and have a structured educational component there is a good chance I will be able to attract top calibre players to my program. Whereas a program not offering these elements or not prepared to work hard shouldn’t be rewarded by a distribution which aims for parity, better described as mediocrity. Why punish those individuals who put in the time and work to build something special versus the lazy complainers?
You don't get it. Hockey Canada sets the condition for expectations at the rep level. Both from coaching, ice time, game time, development, culture .. all of it. It is your job to follow it!! Not 'tweak it', not 'add to it', not provide a team that is outside expectations from Hockey Canada. If you feel differently, work with Hockey Canada and reset expectations across AAA or across rep so all teams understand the criteria and meet the criteria. You attracting the 17 kids that both want, pay and receive a program that is set differently from the others smells bad. You don't 'punish' individuals, you get those individuals spread across all teams so they bring the entire competition loop up. Show some leadership Pal.
Wont happen as long as teams are privately owned and funded.

Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke

by Guest » Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:44 am

Guest wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:19 am
Guest wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:01 am
Guest wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:42 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:57 pm
Guest wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:38 pm
Guest wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:30 pm The GTHL is terribly run league. It's essentially 2 tiers built into 1.

the top 4 teams are one level, and the bottom 8 are the next. What this means is that for the most part the top 4 teams will always win against the bottom 8. If a player develops over a season or two on a 7/8/9/10 whatever team, he'll be picked up by a top four team and move.

This terrible for player development, as league parity and testing yourself in competition of an equal caliber are key components over the LONG journey of development. What the GTHL has done is create all-star teams, and they have made winning easy for these players. What they don't develop though is the character components. Things like how to find an extra gear when you're down, how to lose with class-figure out what went wrong, what you can do better, and come out hungrier to win next time. Players lack resiliency and don't know what it's like to lose.

The US NTDP is the best format, and they set it up for these teams to lose more than they win. Imagine that.
It's not about winning... it's about $$$$$$$$
Open borders means it is about to get a whole lot worse for parity outside the G





Tell us your kid didn’t make AAA without telling us your kid didn’t make AAA.
I am a huge fan of 'convening' at all levels including AAA. The convening is a two step process, one is with the Board of the AAA team and one is with the G itself. The culture of the AAA loop should be 'parity' across the 12 teams. This will be of benefit to all AAA players including the ones on the supposedly top talented team. New player needs to go through a convening process .. best for this player to go to team X as he is too good for team Y. You get the idea. Parents and kids need to see the forest through the trees.
This process totally overlooks the fact that some organizations have more resources and work harder than others. It punishes the good and rewards the mediocre and poor. If I have better coaching, more ice time, provide dryland training, do baseline testing, have nutritional expertise, seek out top level competition and have a structured educational component there is a good chance I will be able to attract top calibre players to my program. Whereas a program not offering these elements or not prepared to work hard shouldn’t be rewarded by a distribution which aims for parity, better described as mediocrity. Why punish those individuals who put in the time and work to build something special versus the lazy complainers?
You don't get it. Hockey Canada sets the condition for expectations at the rep level. Both from coaching, ice time, game time, development, culture .. all of it. It is your job to follow it!! Not 'tweak it', not 'add to it', not provide a team that is outside expectations from Hockey Canada. If you feel differently, work with Hockey Canada and reset expectations across AAA or across rep so all teams understand the criteria and meet the criteria. You attracting the 17 kids that both want, pay and receive a program that is set differently from the others smells bad. You don't 'punish' individuals, you get those individuals spread across all teams so they bring the entire competition loop up. Show some leadership Pal.

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