2015 AAA

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Re: 2015 AAA

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I'm anything but a fan of the GTHL leadership but this is not their issue. The parents and coaches if they have any eyes at all must have been able to see these kids were not up to the AAA standard yet moved forward. It happens almost every season, particularly at the U9 level, but parents still go down that path. Moving players around is pure folly, this is not a convened house league. I wouldn't enter a league where my happy kid on the 4th place team is told he's going to the basement to help them be more competitive. Ridiculous! You have 3 levels of competition for a reason. If you can't handle the consequences that's on you not the league or other teams.
Agreed.

And if your kid isn't one of the ones improving, then 4x a week isn't enough. Not all kids start the season at the same level, you need to do more to catch up. Again on the parents.
Agreed. Every team is on the ice 4 times a week at a minimum. If you are that far behind then the only way to begin to close the gap is more training, individually and collectively. Doing what everyone is doing isn't going to help. Sorry, again that's on the parents.
It's an unfortunate situation. I have empathy for the kids. Woke solutions aren't going to work here. This is AAA hockey. The tough resilient kids will build character.
Good to hear some empathy .. thank you. However, AAA hockey should mean 'leadership' when it comes to hockey. I would think teams should/parents be looking out for all kids in the loop and not just their kid or their team. I am starting to wonder about how much loyalty the families have towards a team or creating competitive balance in a loop?
What exactly do you mean by "competitive balance" and "looking out for all the kids"? Are you seriously suggesting that players should be randomly scattered across teams just to make everyone feel better? Is this about fostering competition, or are you pushing some misguided agenda of equality of outcome? Let me guess, you are a retarded self identifying "progressive".

Let’s talk about TRW: they have absolutely no business being in AAA. They’re a bottom-tier team that wouldn’t even rank in the top three in AA. This isn’t a knock on the kids—they’re just 9 years old and doing their best. The real blame lies with their parents, whose delusional choices have set them up for failure.
All this sh-tting on the parents is bs. How would they have known that the team was going to be this bad? You think that mom and dad have been scouting Klevr, CDS and the NYHL over the past year? There’s no HockeyDB on 9 year olds. It’s a crap shoot in the bottom four or so teams, you never know how good or bad they are until the season starts.
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Re: 2015 AAA

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Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:51 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:40 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:33 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:05 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:46 am
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:48 am

It is not the parents fault, It is not the kids fault. It is not the coaches fault. They are all entering first year of fully organized hockey. If anything it is a slight blame on TRW Board. They should know if team is competitive enough to operate at the AAA level. From what I know the TRW Board is a strong one, very diverse representation. The big issue is that G has not stepped in and 'convened' appropriately. This could mean moving TRW to AA (i get it very complex) or this could mean moving a couple of players around within existing teams to ensure more competitive games happen. You cannot have back to back 14-1 scores in Game 20/21 of the regular season. This is absolutely insane. It is a horrible horrible year to live through and so many of you don't get it.
It is probably harder on the parents egos than the kids.

You knew what you were getting into. Watching your team through 3 games now, it is clear some kids are improving, and some have not. I am willing to bet those kids that are improving are seeking additional training and the others that are not improving are being left behind. That is on the parents.
Sorry .. never was it talked about that we were going to get our asses whipped 14-1 in Games 20/21 of the season. The 'gap' in talent was going to close and competitive games were going to start happening by Game 10. Really that is not important, the important thing is to have the league work on a solution. Teams should not be running up the score .. that is the most obvious step. No more goals after 5-0.
As far as 'extra' training .. what does this mean?? We are on the ice 4x/week which is plenty.
I'm anything but a fan of the GTHL leadership but this is not their issue. The parents and coaches if they have any eyes at all must have been able to see these kids were not up to the AAA standard yet moved forward. It happens almost every season, particularly at the U9 level, but parents still go down that path. Moving players around is pure folly, this is not a convened house league. I wouldn't enter a league where my happy kid on the 4th place team is told he's going to the basement to help them be more competitive. Ridiculous! You have 3 levels of competition for a reason. If you can't handle the consequences that's on you not the league or other teams.
Agreed.

And if your kid isn't one of the ones improving, then 4x a week isn't enough. Not all kids start the season at the same level, you need to do more to catch up. Again on the parents.
Agreed. Every team is on the ice 4 times a week at a minimum. If you are that far behind then the only way to begin to close the gap is more training, individually and collectively. Doing what everyone is doing isn't going to help. Sorry, again that's on the parents.
Are you including your games in 4 times per week? AA and A teams in our area are on the ice 4 times per week and most have dryland. We have 2 practices, 1 skill development with the team and 3 other skates per week. This is our day off and my kid is on the backyard rink right now. He will probably play for 2 or 3 hours and then throw a tantrum when I turn off the lights…
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Re: 2015 AAA

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Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:05 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:26 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:04 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:08 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:51 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:40 pm

Agreed.

And if your kid isn't one of the ones improving, then 4x a week isn't enough. Not all kids start the season at the same level, you need to do more to catch up. Again on the parents.
Agreed. Every team is on the ice 4 times a week at a minimum. If you are that far behind then the only way to begin to close the gap is more training, individually and collectively. Doing what everyone is doing isn't going to help. Sorry, again that's on the parents.
It's an unfortunate situation. I have empathy for the kids. Woke solutions aren't going to work here. This is AAA hockey. The tough resilient kids will build character.
Good to hear some empathy .. thank you. However, AAA hockey should mean 'leadership' when it comes to hockey. I would think teams should/parents be looking out for all kids in the loop and not just their kid or their team. I am starting to wonder about how much loyalty the families have towards a team or creating competitive balance in a loop?
What exactly do you mean by "competitive balance" and "looking out for all the kids"? Are you seriously suggesting that players should be randomly scattered across teams just to make everyone feel better? Is this about fostering competition, or are you pushing some misguided agenda of equality of outcome? Let me guess, you are a retarded self identifying "progressive".

Let’s talk about TRW: they have absolutely no business being in AAA. They’re a bottom-tier team that wouldn’t even rank in the top three in AA. This isn’t a knock on the kids—they’re just 9 years old and doing their best. The real blame lies with their parents, whose delusional choices have set them up for failure.
All this sh-tting on the parents is bs. How would they have known that the team was going to be this bad? You think that mom and dad have been scouting Klevr, CDS and the NYHL over the past year? There’s no HockeyDB on 9 year olds. It’s a crap shoot in the bottom four or so teams, you never know how good or bad they are until the season starts.
I agree, quit dumping on parents and the kids. It is up to the organization to build a core early and develop them so that they don’t suck at U10. If these kids weren’t playing, there wouldn’t be a team, and then you wouldn’t have anyone to troll online and make fun of.
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Re: 2015 AAA

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TM offered my kid a spot for next year, we are from the OMHA currently and live in our own hockey bubble out here. Not that this forum is the way to make decisions, however, hearing from current TM parents that they are all leaving has me rethinking making the move. Will TM even be a top 5 team next year?
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There is only 1 kid that matters in TL land and that RL, stay away and go play real hockey not have your kid get yelled at and told he sucks after every loss (and there will be many of losses)
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Yep if you’re not RL34 your trash to them and will be treated that way exactly why the entire team other then maybe 4 kids staying for next year
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Re: 2015 AAA

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Guest wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:16 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:57 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:16 pm I heard TB have only committed to the third line and one goalie so far still searching for top kids to try and compete. Any word on and studs signing with TB for Brick ?
They are looking to NJ and CT for a few kids. No studs going except RL34. It’s sad but those committed to date won’t see any ice there. $6850 plus travel to ride the bench. Ouch
RL is a stud?
Kids they have offered spots to so far is oh so very surprising weak talent and kids that have not been offered spots yet again oh so very surprising…. Not sure what’s going on in BD land but I think they are scared as they should be and loosing players by the minute…. Even lost there goalie to pro…
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Re: 2015 AAA

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Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:05 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:26 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:04 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:08 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:51 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:40 pm

Agreed.

And if your kid isn't one of the ones improving, then 4x a week isn't enough. Not all kids start the season at the same level, you need to do more to catch up. Again on the parents.
Agreed. Every team is on the ice 4 times a week at a minimum. If you are that far behind then the only way to begin to close the gap is more training, individually and collectively. Doing what everyone is doing isn't going to help. Sorry, again that's on the parents.
It's an unfortunate situation. I have empathy for the kids. Woke solutions aren't going to work here. This is AAA hockey. The tough resilient kids will build character.
Good to hear some empathy .. thank you. However, AAA hockey should mean 'leadership' when it comes to hockey. I would think teams should/parents be looking out for all kids in the loop and not just their kid or their team. I am starting to wonder about how much loyalty the families have towards a team or creating competitive balance in a loop?
What exactly do you mean by "competitive balance" and "looking out for all the kids"? Are you seriously suggesting that players should be randomly scattered across teams just to make everyone feel better? Is this about fostering competition, or are you pushing some misguided agenda of equality of outcome? Let me guess, you are a retarded self identifying "progressive".

Let’s talk about TRW: they have absolutely no business being in AAA. They’re a bottom-tier team that wouldn’t even rank in the top three in AA. This isn’t a knock on the kids—they’re just 9 years old and doing their best. The real blame lies with their parents, whose delusional choices have set them up for failure.
All this sh-tting on the parents is bs. How would they have known that the team was going to be this bad? You think that mom and dad have been scouting Klevr, CDS and the NYHL over the past year? There’s no HockeyDB on 9 year olds. It’s a crap shoot in the bottom four or so teams, you never know how good or bad they are until the season starts.
Easy because TRW took 6 or 7 kids from their tier two team in nyhl that was a bottom feeder. You can hide one or two not 6 or 7. I took my kid to skate with them and could see very clearly how bad they’d be. I’m not special. The parents knew. 100%.
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Re: 2015 AAA

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Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:02 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:16 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:57 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:16 pm I heard TB have only committed to the third line and one goalie so far still searching for top kids to try and compete. Any word on and studs signing with TB for Brick ?
They are looking to NJ and CT for a few kids. No studs going except RL34. It’s sad but those committed to date won’t see any ice there. $6850 plus travel to ride the bench. Ouch
RL is a stud?
Kids they have offered spots to so far is oh so very surprising weak talent and kids that have not been offered spots yet again oh so very surprising…. Not sure what’s going on in BD land but I think they are scared as they should be and loosing players by the minute…. Even lost there goalie to pro…
BD are bringing kids from the US for brick that's no secret
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Re: 2015 AAA

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Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:05 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:26 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:04 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:08 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:51 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:40 pm

Agreed.

And if your kid isn't one of the ones improving, then 4x a week isn't enough. Not all kids start the season at the same level, you need to do more to catch up. Again on the parents.
Agreed. Every team is on the ice 4 times a week at a minimum. If you are that far behind then the only way to begin to close the gap is more training, individually and collectively. Doing what everyone is doing isn't going to help. Sorry, again that's on the parents.
It's an unfortunate situation. I have empathy for the kids. Woke solutions aren't going to work here. This is AAA hockey. The tough resilient kids will build character.
Good to hear some empathy .. thank you. However, AAA hockey should mean 'leadership' when it comes to hockey. I would think teams should/parents be looking out for all kids in the loop and not just their kid or their team. I am starting to wonder about how much loyalty the families have towards a team or creating competitive balance in a loop?
What exactly do you mean by "competitive balance" and "looking out for all the kids"? Are you seriously suggesting that players should be randomly scattered across teams just to make everyone feel better? Is this about fostering competition, or are you pushing some misguided agenda of equality of outcome? Let me guess, you are a retarded self identifying "progressive".

Let’s talk about TRW: they have absolutely no business being in AAA. They’re a bottom-tier team that wouldn’t even rank in the top three in AA. This isn’t a knock on the kids—they’re just 9 years old and doing their best. The real blame lies with their parents, whose delusional choices have set them up for failure.
All this sh-tting on the parents is bs. How would they have known that the team was going to be this bad? You think that mom and dad have been scouting Klevr, CDS and the NYHL over the past year? There’s no HockeyDB on 9 year olds. It’s a crap shoot in the bottom four or so teams, you never know how good or bad they are until the season starts.
Absolutely they should have been scouting. Did they even watch one GTHL U10 game before they took their kid out to tryouts? It’s called do your homework, know the level of competition and honestly assess where their kid fits in. Pointing fingers at everyone else after the season starts doesn’t cut it. The onus is first and foremost on the parents to make realistic decisions.
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Re: 2015 AAA

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Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:29 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:02 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:16 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:57 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:16 pm I heard TB have only committed to the third line and one goalie so far still searching for top kids to try and compete. Any word on and studs signing with TB for Brick ?
They are looking to NJ and CT for a few kids. No studs going except RL34. It’s sad but those committed to date won’t see any ice there. $6850 plus travel to ride the bench. Ouch
RL is a stud?
Kids they have offered spots to so far is oh so very surprising weak talent and kids that have not been offered spots yet again oh so very surprising…. Not sure what’s going on in BD land but I think they are scared as they should be and loosing players by the minute…. Even lost there goalie to pro…
BD are bringing kids from the US for brick that's no secret
Bulldogs and pro are not allowed any imports. It’s right in the bylaws so if American kids start showing up on their roster, they better be ready to be able to show proof of residence and back it up with history
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Re: 2015 AAA

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Guest wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:26 am
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:29 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:02 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:16 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:57 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:16 pm I heard TB have only committed to the third line and one goalie so far still searching for top kids to try and compete. Any word on and studs signing with TB for Brick ?
They are looking to NJ and CT for a few kids. No studs going except RL34. It’s sad but those committed to date won’t see any ice there. $6850 plus travel to ride the bench. Ouch
RL is a stud?
Kids they have offered spots to so far is oh so very surprising weak talent and kids that have not been offered spots yet again oh so very surprising…. Not sure what’s going on in BD land but I think they are scared as they should be and loosing players by the minute…. Even lost there goalie to pro…
BD are bringing kids from the US for brick that's no secret
Bulldogs and pro are not allowed any imports. It’s right in the bylaws so if American kids start showing up on their roster, they better be ready to be able to show proof of residence and back it up with history
Awww now look who is defensive about “Open Borders”.
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