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Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:02 pm That rule applies to U10 and U11 only as per the 24/25 GTHL rule book.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:36 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:02 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:47 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:02 pm Do we want to develop kids or no?

No one will do equal ice time especially on top teams. Maybe the mid pack and bottom feeders have problems, bur top teams will be quiet as a church

Canadian hockey is falling behind. Coaches need to put their ego aside and focus on development. There are plenty of good kids who didn't go far because coaches focused on winning. It's often too late once these early superstars realize that winning isn't sufficient.

hmmm.... some of you have fair and equal a$$ backwards. kids that put in the extra effort, the ones that shoot pucks and train on off days, the ones who focus on eating well and getting enough sleep because it pays dividends in terms of their performance, the ones who are focused on developing on and off the ice... those kids typically earn the most ice. If your kid is gaming 2 hours a day, not eating clean, nott getting proper rest, not training when they're away from the rink, than your kid doesn't deserve the same ice as someone who is doing these things. this assumes they're in a competitive program.

FAIR IS NOT EQUAL. fair is rewarding hard work. all you people whining that your kid isn't getting ice, look at their work ethic off the ice and then put forth your arguments. I have zero qualms with my kid riding the pine if he isn't putting in the work. the lesson is clear here and it's what all the snowflakes out there haven't learned. coaches are there to develop your kids but your kids have to actually put in the work even after they leave the rink if they want to develop at the same rate as someone who does.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:17 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:02 pm That rule applies to U10 and U11 only as per the 24/25 GTHL rule book.

The rules come from Hockey Canada and the ruling was issued by OHF, which trumps a GTHL rule book.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:27 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:36 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:02 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:47 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:02 pm Do we want to develop kids or no?

No one will do equal ice time especially on top teams. Maybe the mid pack and bottom feeders have problems, bur top teams will be quiet as a church

Canadian hockey is falling behind. Coaches need to put their ego aside and focus on development. There are plenty of good kids who didn't go far because coaches focused on winning. It's often too late once these early superstars realize that winning isn't sufficient.

hmmm.... some of you have fair and equal a$$ backwards. kids that put in the extra effort, the ones that shoot pucks and train on off days, the ones who focus on eating well and getting enough sleep because it pays dividends in terms of their performance, the ones who are focused on developing on and off the ice... those kids typically earn the most ice. If your kid is gaming 2 hours a day, not eating clean, nott getting proper rest, not training when they're away from the rink, than your kid doesn't deserve the same ice as someone who is doing these things. this assumes they're in a competitive program.

FAIR IS NOT EQUAL. fair is rewarding hard work. all you people whining that your kid isn't getting ice, look at their work ethic off the ice and then put forth your arguments. I have zero qualms with my kid riding the pine if he isn't putting in the work. the lesson is clear here and it's what all the snowflakes out there haven't learned. coaches are there to develop your kids but your kids have to actually put in the work even after they leave the rink if they want to develop at the same rate as someone who does.

In an ideal world you are correct. However, you are ignoring coaches that play favorites, as many do. They don't care about extra effort and will try to put the spotlight on theirs and friends' kids. Starts with ice-time and development opportunities, and ends with manipulations of points in Gamesheet.
Enforcement of fair and equal ice-time rules starts to address this behavior.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:32 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:27 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:36 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:02 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:47 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:02 pm Do we want to develop kids or no?

No one will do equal ice time especially on top teams. Maybe the mid pack and bottom feeders have problems, bur top teams will be quiet as a church

Canadian hockey is falling behind. Coaches need to put their ego aside and focus on development. There are plenty of good kids who didn't go far because coaches focused on winning. It's often too late once these early superstars realize that winning isn't sufficient.

hmmm.... some of you have fair and equal a$$ backwards. kids that put in the extra effort, the ones that shoot pucks and train on off days, the ones who focus on eating well and getting enough sleep because it pays dividends in terms of their performance, the ones who are focused on developing on and off the ice... those kids typically earn the most ice. If your kid is gaming 2 hours a day, not eating clean, nott getting proper rest, not training when they're away from the rink, than your kid doesn't deserve the same ice as someone who is doing these things. this assumes they're in a competitive program.

FAIR IS NOT EQUAL. fair is rewarding hard work. all you people whining that your kid isn't getting ice, look at their work ethic off the ice and then put forth your arguments. I have zero qualms with my kid riding the pine if he isn't putting in the work. the lesson is clear here and it's what all the snowflakes out there haven't learned. coaches are there to develop your kids but your kids have to actually put in the work even after they leave the rink if they want to develop at the same rate as someone who does.

In an ideal world you are correct. However, you are ignoring coaches that play favorites, as many do. They don't care about extra effort and will try to put the spotlight on theirs and friends' kids. Starts with ice-time and development opportunities, and ends with manipulations of points in Gamesheet.
Enforcement of fair and equal ice-time rules starts to address this behavior.

Stop whining and go to another team then.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:57 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:32 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:27 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:36 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:02 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:47 pm

No one will do equal ice time especially on top teams. Maybe the mid pack and bottom feeders have problems, bur top teams will be quiet as a church

Canadian hockey is falling behind. Coaches need to put their ego aside and focus on development. There are plenty of good kids who didn't go far because coaches focused on winning. It's often too late once these early superstars realize that winning isn't sufficient.

hmmm.... some of you have fair and equal a$$ backwards. kids that put in the extra effort, the ones that shoot pucks and train on off days, the ones who focus on eating well and getting enough sleep because it pays dividends in terms of their performance, the ones who are focused on developing on and off the ice... those kids typically earn the most ice. If your kid is gaming 2 hours a day, not eating clean, nott getting proper rest, not training when they're away from the rink, than your kid doesn't deserve the same ice as someone who is doing these things. this assumes they're in a competitive program.

FAIR IS NOT EQUAL. fair is rewarding hard work. all you people whining that your kid isn't getting ice, look at their work ethic off the ice and then put forth your arguments. I have zero qualms with my kid riding the pine if he isn't putting in the work. the lesson is clear here and it's what all the snowflakes out there haven't learned. coaches are there to develop your kids but your kids have to actually put in the work even after they leave the rink if they want to develop at the same rate as someone who does.

In an ideal world you are correct. However, you are ignoring coaches that play favorites, as many do. They don't care about extra effort and will try to put the spotlight on theirs and friends' kids. Starts with ice-time and development opportunities, and ends with manipulations of points in Gamesheet.
Enforcement of fair and equal ice-time rules starts to address this behavior.

Stop whining and go to another team then.

Top teams play their best players. Whine and complain and your kid will get less and less ice time.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 11:51 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:57 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:32 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:27 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:36 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:02 pm
Canadian hockey is falling behind. Coaches need to put their ego aside and focus on development. There are plenty of good kids who didn't go far because coaches focused on winning. It's often too late once these early superstars realize that winning isn't sufficient.

hmmm.... some of you have fair and equal a$$ backwards. kids that put in the extra effort, the ones that shoot pucks and train on off days, the ones who focus on eating well and getting enough sleep because it pays dividends in terms of their performance, the ones who are focused on developing on and off the ice... those kids typically earn the most ice. If your kid is gaming 2 hours a day, not eating clean, nott getting proper rest, not training when they're away from the rink, than your kid doesn't deserve the same ice as someone who is doing these things. this assumes they're in a competitive program.

FAIR IS NOT EQUAL. fair is rewarding hard work. all you people whining that your kid isn't getting ice, look at their work ethic off the ice and then put forth your arguments. I have zero qualms with my kid riding the pine if he isn't putting in the work. the lesson is clear here and it's what all the snowflakes out there haven't learned. coaches are there to develop your kids but your kids have to actually put in the work even after they leave the rink if they want to develop at the same rate as someone who does.

In an ideal world you are correct. However, you are ignoring coaches that play favorites, as many do. They don't care about extra effort and will try to put the spotlight on theirs and friends' kids. Starts with ice-time and development opportunities, and ends with manipulations of points in Gamesheet.
Enforcement of fair and equal ice-time rules starts to address this behavior.

Stop whining and go to another team then.

Top teams play their best players. Whine and complain and your kid will get less and less ice time.

Make smaller rosters then. The parents whose kid plays cN pay for it.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:57 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:32 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:27 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:36 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:02 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:47 pm

No one will do equal ice time especially on top teams. Maybe the mid pack and bottom feeders have problems, bur top teams will be quiet as a church

Canadian hockey is falling behind. Coaches need to put their ego aside and focus on development. There are plenty of good kids who didn't go far because coaches focused on winning. It's often too late once these early superstars realize that winning isn't sufficient.

hmmm.... some of you have fair and equal a$$ backwards. kids that put in the extra effort, the ones that shoot pucks and train on off days, the ones who focus on eating well and getting enough sleep because it pays dividends in terms of their performance, the ones who are focused on developing on and off the ice... those kids typically earn the most ice. If your kid is gaming 2 hours a day, not eating clean, nott getting proper rest, not training when they're away from the rink, than your kid doesn't deserve the same ice as someone who is doing these things. this assumes they're in a competitive program.

FAIR IS NOT EQUAL. fair is rewarding hard work. all you people whining that your kid isn't getting ice, look at their work ethic off the ice and then put forth your arguments. I have zero qualms with my kid riding the pine if he isn't putting in the work. the lesson is clear here and it's what all the snowflakes out there haven't learned. coaches are there to develop your kids but your kids have to actually put in the work even after they leave the rink if they want to develop at the same rate as someone who does.

In an ideal world you are correct. However, you are ignoring coaches that play favorites, as many do. They don't care about extra effort and will try to put the spotlight on theirs and friends' kids. Starts with ice-time and development opportunities, and ends with manipulations of points in Gamesheet.
Enforcement of fair and equal ice-time rules starts to address this behavior.

Stop whining and go to another team then.

Top teams play their best players. Whine and complain and your kid will get less and less ice time.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:40 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:57 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:32 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:27 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:36 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:02 pm
Canadian hockey is falling behind. Coaches need to put their ego aside and focus on development. There are plenty of good kids who didn't go far because coaches focused on winning. It's often too late once these early superstars realize that winning isn't sufficient.

hmmm.... some of you have fair and equal a$$ backwards. kids that put in the extra effort, the ones that shoot pucks and train on off days, the ones who focus on eating well and getting enough sleep because it pays dividends in terms of their performance, the ones who are focused on developing on and off the ice... those kids typically earn the most ice. If your kid is gaming 2 hours a day, not eating clean, nott getting proper rest, not training when they're away from the rink, than your kid doesn't deserve the same ice as someone who is doing these things. this assumes they're in a competitive program.

FAIR IS NOT EQUAL. fair is rewarding hard work. all you people whining that your kid isn't getting ice, look at their work ethic off the ice and then put forth your arguments. I have zero qualms with my kid riding the pine if he isn't putting in the work. the lesson is clear here and it's what all the snowflakes out there haven't learned. coaches are there to develop your kids but your kids have to actually put in the work even after they leave the rink if they want to develop at the same rate as someone who does.

In an ideal world you are correct. However, you are ignoring coaches that play favorites, as many do. They don't care about extra effort and will try to put the spotlight on theirs and friends' kids. Starts with ice-time and development opportunities, and ends with manipulations of points in Gamesheet.
Enforcement of fair and equal ice-time rules starts to address this behavior.

Stop whining and go to another team then.

Top teams play their best players. Whine and complain and your kid will get less and less ice time.

This is not true and if it is, that coach should not be teaching young children. Top teams develop and play ALL their players. Lazy, incompetent coaches only play their best players.

And don't whine and complain. Mention it ONE time to your coach and if there isn't an immediate change, take it directly to the GTHL. Simple.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:43 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:40 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:57 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:32 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:27 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:36 pm

hmmm.... some of you have fair and equal a$$ backwards. kids that put in the extra effort, the ones that shoot pucks and train on off days, the ones who focus on eating well and getting enough sleep because it pays dividends in terms of their performance, the ones who are focused on developing on and off the ice... those kids typically earn the most ice. If your kid is gaming 2 hours a day, not eating clean, nott getting proper rest, not training when they're away from the rink, than your kid doesn't deserve the same ice as someone who is doing these things. this assumes they're in a competitive program.

FAIR IS NOT EQUAL. fair is rewarding hard work. all you people whining that your kid isn't getting ice, look at their work ethic off the ice and then put forth your arguments. I have zero qualms with my kid riding the pine if he isn't putting in the work. the lesson is clear here and it's what all the snowflakes out there haven't learned. coaches are there to develop your kids but your kids have to actually put in the work even after they leave the rink if they want to develop at the same rate as someone who does.

In an ideal world you are correct. However, you are ignoring coaches that play favorites, as many do. They don't care about extra effort and will try to put the spotlight on theirs and friends' kids. Starts with ice-time and development opportunities, and ends with manipulations of points in Gamesheet.
Enforcement of fair and equal ice-time rules starts to address this behavior.

Stop whining and go to another team then.

Top teams play their best players. Whine and complain and your kid will get less and less ice time.

This is not true and if it is, that coach should not be teaching young children. Top teams develop and play ALL their players. Lazy, incompetent coaches only play their best players.

And don't whine and complain. Mention it ONE time to your coach and if there isn't an immediate change, take it directly to the GTHL. Simple.

You ask any AAA coach if he plays his best players the majority of the time and see what he says. Deny it all you want, it’s happening. GTHL will do nothing. I know of coaches doing it even at the AA level.