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Guest wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:19 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:45 am The Toronto Marlboros don’t carry the same shine as they once had.

This happens. Team/Org success can vary a lot from birth year to birth year. Who the coach is has a lot to do with it. I've seen coaches/'leaders' at reputable orgs think they don't have to do anything and just sail by on the org reputation. A lot of orgs have gone downhill with that attitude.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:32 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 10:27 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:56 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 8:58 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 5:31 am Except the Marlies parent coaches ARE PAID
Every one of our coaching staffs between U10 and U14 get anywhere between 30k and 40k a year to divide among the HC and assistants. The org did not win a championship in any age group last year and our U14 team was the last to win one that was 2 years ago.
The executive needs to make some sweeping changes as morale and the culture is at an unprecedented dented low.

07s won in U16 2 years ago. Might want to fact check this statement because I bet there are other teams that won as well.

Ok so just because they are paid 15k a year or something after it's divided they shouldnt be able to have their kids play there? Im wondering just how bad the kids are. I've heard people say oh that coaches kid is terrible, shouldnt be on the team. Or that coaches friends kid is terrible - he shouldnt be on the team but the reality is that the kid is not that bad.

I think hockey has become more watered down everywhere but it's not because of any coaches kids. I was just looking at the top teams in the US - and a few of them all have coaches kids on them and somehow they are making it work. The fact of the matter is that is a coach has a kid on the team they will be more invested.

First of all, it’s more like 40k that they split amongst the bench staff, not 15.

Second, the coaches kids on the U14, U13, and U12 teams are the worst players on the team, and it’s not even close. Every one of them, and anybody would tell you that. So it’s not a case of them not being that bad, these kids are really bad.

Combine that with finishing anywhere between 3rd and 5th place and it’s a no brainer that the organization needs to raise its standards.

I can read, I said ok then, so split up it's like 15k a year.

I guess ya'll are getting screwed then where you are. On the top teams in our area the coaches kids are GOOD.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:55 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:32 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 10:27 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:56 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 8:58 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 5:31 am Except the Marlies parent coaches ARE PAID
Every one of our coaching staffs between U10 and U14 get anywhere between 30k and 40k a year to divide among the HC and assistants. The org did not win a championship in any age group last year and our U14 team was the last to win one that was 2 years ago.
The executive needs to make some sweeping changes as morale and the culture is at an unprecedented dented low.

07s won in U16 2 years ago. Might want to fact check this statement because I bet there are other teams that won as well.

Ok so just because they are paid 15k a year or something after it's divided they shouldnt be able to have their kids play there? Im wondering just how bad the kids are. I've heard people say oh that coaches kid is terrible, shouldnt be on the team. Or that coaches friends kid is terrible - he shouldnt be on the team but the reality is that the kid is not that bad.

I think hockey has become more watered down everywhere but it's not because of any coaches kids. I was just looking at the top teams in the US - and a few of them all have coaches kids on them and somehow they are making it work. The fact of the matter is that is a coach has a kid on the team they will be more invested.

First of all, it’s more like 40k that they split amongst the bench staff, not 15.

Second, the coaches kids on the U14, U13, and U12 teams are the worst players on the team, and it’s not even close. Every one of them, and anybody would tell you that. So it’s not a case of them not being that bad, these kids are really bad.

Combine that with finishing anywhere between 3rd and 5th place and it’s a no brainer that the organization needs to raise its standards.

I can read, I said ok then, so split up it's like 15k a year.

I guess ya'll are getting screwed then where you are. On the top teams in our area the coaches kids are GOOD.

Good in a shitty league don’t count cowboy

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 2:20 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 4:53 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 1:54 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 1:25 pm I’ll tell you what went wrong with the organization.

https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/1 ... -thibodeau

Ya this drunken idiot has already made waves and the fact that every parent coach in the organisation is completely incompetent and has their shitty kid playing for their team doesn’t help

I assume the people working/coaching for the org are volunteers...volunteering their time so yes they bring their shitty kids with them as part of the deal. This happens everywhere. The only way to change this is to hire non parent coaches and PAY them money but that doesn't seem to be something the folks at the top want to do either.

Times have changed. People are busy with full time jobs, kids. If no one wants to make these paid jobs (and really who wants to coach youth hockey as a career on its own?) then this is what we get.

Except the Marlies parent coaches ARE PAID
Every one of our coaching staffs between U10 and U14 get anywhere between 30k and 40k a year to divide among the HC and assistants. The org did not win a championship in any age group last year and our U14 team was the last to win one that was 2 years ago.
The executive needs to make some sweeping changes as morale and the culture is at an unprecedented dented low.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:47 pm Having coached there for 17 years and no longer do....greed, entitled, not with the changing times, and here's the kicker...... complacency.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 5:09 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 2:20 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 4:53 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 1:54 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 1:25 pm I’ll tell you what went wrong with the organization.

https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/1 ... -thibodeau

Ya this drunken idiot has already made waves and the fact that every parent coach in the organisation is completely incompetent and has their shitty kid playing for their team doesn’t help

I assume the people working/coaching for the org are volunteers...volunteering their time so yes they bring their shitty kids with them as part of the deal. This happens everywhere. The only way to change this is to hire non parent coaches and PAY them money but that doesn't seem to be something the folks at the top want to do either.

Times have changed. People are busy with full time jobs, kids. If no one wants to make these paid jobs (and really who wants to coach youth hockey as a career on its own?) then this is what we get.

Except the Marlies parent coaches ARE PAID
Every one of our coaching staffs between U10 and U14 get anywhere between 30k and 40k a year to divide among the HC and assistants. The org did not win a championship in any age group last year and our U14 team was the last to win one that was 2 years ago.
The executive needs to make some sweeping changes as morale and the culture is at an unprecedented dented low.

Reputation at an all time low too