It's not about winning... it's about $$$$$$$$Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 12:30 pm The GTHL is terribly run league. It's essentially 2 tiers built into 1.
the top 4 teams are one level, and the bottom 8 are the next. What this means is that for the most part the top 4 teams will always win against the bottom 8. If a player develops over a season or two on a 7/8/9/10 whatever team, he'll be picked up by a top four team and move.
This terrible for player development, as league parity and testing yourself in competition of an equal caliber are key components over the LONG journey of development. What the GTHL has done is create all-star teams, and they have made winning easy for these players. What they don't develop though is the character components. Things like how to find an extra gear when you're down, how to lose with class-figure out what went wrong, what you can do better, and come out hungrier to win next time. Players lack resiliency and don't know what it's like to lose.
The US NTDP is the best format, and they set it up for these teams to lose more than they win. Imagine that.
AAA hockey an unbalanced joke
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Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke
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Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke
Open borders means it is about to get a whole lot worse for parity outside the GGuest wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 12:38 pmIt's not about winning... it's about $$$$$$$$Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 12:30 pm The GTHL is terribly run league. It's essentially 2 tiers built into 1.
the top 4 teams are one level, and the bottom 8 are the next. What this means is that for the most part the top 4 teams will always win against the bottom 8. If a player develops over a season or two on a 7/8/9/10 whatever team, he'll be picked up by a top four team and move.
This terrible for player development, as league parity and testing yourself in competition of an equal caliber are key components over the LONG journey of development. What the GTHL has done is create all-star teams, and they have made winning easy for these players. What they don't develop though is the character components. Things like how to find an extra gear when you're down, how to lose with class-figure out what went wrong, what you can do better, and come out hungrier to win next time. Players lack resiliency and don't know what it's like to lose.
The US NTDP is the best format, and they set it up for these teams to lose more than they win. Imagine that.
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Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke
Guest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:57 pmOpen borders means it is about to get a whole lot worse for parity outside the GGuest wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 12:38 pmIt's not about winning... it's about $$$$$$$$Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 12:30 pm The GTHL is terribly run league. It's essentially 2 tiers built into 1.
the top 4 teams are one level, and the bottom 8 are the next. What this means is that for the most part the top 4 teams will always win against the bottom 8. If a player develops over a season or two on a 7/8/9/10 whatever team, he'll be picked up by a top four team and move.
This terrible for player development, as league parity and testing yourself in competition of an equal caliber are key components over the LONG journey of development. What the GTHL has done is create all-star teams, and they have made winning easy for these players. What they don't develop though is the character components. Things like how to find an extra gear when you're down, how to lose with class-figure out what went wrong, what you can do better, and come out hungrier to win next time. Players lack resiliency and don't know what it's like to lose.
The US NTDP is the best format, and they set it up for these teams to lose more than they win. Imagine that.
Tell us your kid didn’t make AAA without telling us your kid didn’t make AAA.
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Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke
I am a huge fan of 'convening' at all levels including AAA. The convening is a two step process, one is with the Board of the AAA team and one is with the G itself. The culture of the AAA loop should be 'parity' across the 12 teams. This will be of benefit to all AAA players including the ones on the supposedly top talented team. New player needs to go through a convening process .. best for this player to go to team X as he is too good for team Y. You get the idea. Parents and kids need to see the forest through the trees.Guest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:42 pmGuest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:57 pmOpen borders means it is about to get a whole lot worse for parity outside the GGuest wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 12:38 pmIt's not about winning... it's about $$$$$$$$Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 12:30 pm The GTHL is terribly run league. It's essentially 2 tiers built into 1.
the top 4 teams are one level, and the bottom 8 are the next. What this means is that for the most part the top 4 teams will always win against the bottom 8. If a player develops over a season or two on a 7/8/9/10 whatever team, he'll be picked up by a top four team and move.
This terrible for player development, as league parity and testing yourself in competition of an equal caliber are key components over the LONG journey of development. What the GTHL has done is create all-star teams, and they have made winning easy for these players. What they don't develop though is the character components. Things like how to find an extra gear when you're down, how to lose with class-figure out what went wrong, what you can do better, and come out hungrier to win next time. Players lack resiliency and don't know what it's like to lose.
The US NTDP is the best format, and they set it up for these teams to lose more than they win. Imagine that.
Tell us your kid didn’t make AAA without telling us your kid didn’t make AAA.
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Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke
This process totally overlooks the fact that some organizations have more resources and work harder than others. It punishes the good and rewards the mediocre and poor. If I have better coaching, more ice time, provide dryland training, do baseline testing, have nutritional expertise, seek out top level competition and have a structured educational component there is a good chance I will be able to attract top calibre players to my program. Whereas a program not offering these elements or not prepared to work hard shouldn’t be rewarded by a distribution which aims for parity, better described as mediocrity. Why punish those individuals who put in the time and work to build something special versus the lazy complainers?Guest wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:01 amI am a huge fan of 'convening' at all levels including AAA. The convening is a two step process, one is with the Board of the AAA team and one is with the G itself. The culture of the AAA loop should be 'parity' across the 12 teams. This will be of benefit to all AAA players including the ones on the supposedly top talented team. New player needs to go through a convening process .. best for this player to go to team X as he is too good for team Y. You get the idea. Parents and kids need to see the forest through the trees.Guest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:42 pmGuest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:57 pmOpen borders means it is about to get a whole lot worse for parity outside the GGuest wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 12:38 pmIt's not about winning... it's about $$$$$$$$Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 12:30 pm The GTHL is terribly run league. It's essentially 2 tiers built into 1.
the top 4 teams are one level, and the bottom 8 are the next. What this means is that for the most part the top 4 teams will always win against the bottom 8. If a player develops over a season or two on a 7/8/9/10 whatever team, he'll be picked up by a top four team and move.
This terrible for player development, as league parity and testing yourself in competition of an equal caliber are key components over the LONG journey of development. What the GTHL has done is create all-star teams, and they have made winning easy for these players. What they don't develop though is the character components. Things like how to find an extra gear when you're down, how to lose with class-figure out what went wrong, what you can do better, and come out hungrier to win next time. Players lack resiliency and don't know what it's like to lose.
The US NTDP is the best format, and they set it up for these teams to lose more than they win. Imagine that.
Tell us your kid didn’t make AAA without telling us your kid didn’t make AAA.
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Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke
You don't get it. Hockey Canada sets the condition for expectations at the rep level. Both from coaching, ice time, game time, development, culture .. all of it. It is your job to follow it!! Not 'tweak it', not 'add to it', not provide a team that is outside expectations from Hockey Canada. If you feel differently, work with Hockey Canada and reset expectations across AAA or across rep so all teams understand the criteria and meet the criteria. You attracting the 17 kids that both want, pay and receive a program that is set differently from the others smells bad. You don't 'punish' individuals, you get those individuals spread across all teams so they bring the entire competition loop up. Show some leadership Pal.Guest wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:19 amThis process totally overlooks the fact that some organizations have more resources and work harder than others. It punishes the good and rewards the mediocre and poor. If I have better coaching, more ice time, provide dryland training, do baseline testing, have nutritional expertise, seek out top level competition and have a structured educational component there is a good chance I will be able to attract top calibre players to my program. Whereas a program not offering these elements or not prepared to work hard shouldn’t be rewarded by a distribution which aims for parity, better described as mediocrity. Why punish those individuals who put in the time and work to build something special versus the lazy complainers?Guest wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:01 amI am a huge fan of 'convening' at all levels including AAA. The convening is a two step process, one is with the Board of the AAA team and one is with the G itself. The culture of the AAA loop should be 'parity' across the 12 teams. This will be of benefit to all AAA players including the ones on the supposedly top talented team. New player needs to go through a convening process .. best for this player to go to team X as he is too good for team Y. You get the idea. Parents and kids need to see the forest through the trees.Guest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:42 pmGuest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:57 pmOpen borders means it is about to get a whole lot worse for parity outside the GGuest wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 12:38 pmIt's not about winning... it's about $$$$$$$$Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 12:30 pm The GTHL is terribly run league. It's essentially 2 tiers built into 1.
the top 4 teams are one level, and the bottom 8 are the next. What this means is that for the most part the top 4 teams will always win against the bottom 8. If a player develops over a season or two on a 7/8/9/10 whatever team, he'll be picked up by a top four team and move.
This terrible for player development, as league parity and testing yourself in competition of an equal caliber are key components over the LONG journey of development. What the GTHL has done is create all-star teams, and they have made winning easy for these players. What they don't develop though is the character components. Things like how to find an extra gear when you're down, how to lose with class-figure out what went wrong, what you can do better, and come out hungrier to win next time. Players lack resiliency and don't know what it's like to lose.
The US NTDP is the best format, and they set it up for these teams to lose more than they win. Imagine that.
Tell us your kid didn’t make AAA without telling us your kid didn’t make AAA.
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Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke
Wont happen as long as teams are privately owned and funded.Guest wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:44 amYou don't get it. Hockey Canada sets the condition for expectations at the rep level. Both from coaching, ice time, game time, development, culture .. all of it. It is your job to follow it!! Not 'tweak it', not 'add to it', not provide a team that is outside expectations from Hockey Canada. If you feel differently, work with Hockey Canada and reset expectations across AAA or across rep so all teams understand the criteria and meet the criteria. You attracting the 17 kids that both want, pay and receive a program that is set differently from the others smells bad. You don't 'punish' individuals, you get those individuals spread across all teams so they bring the entire competition loop up. Show some leadership Pal.Guest wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:19 amThis process totally overlooks the fact that some organizations have more resources and work harder than others. It punishes the good and rewards the mediocre and poor. If I have better coaching, more ice time, provide dryland training, do baseline testing, have nutritional expertise, seek out top level competition and have a structured educational component there is a good chance I will be able to attract top calibre players to my program. Whereas a program not offering these elements or not prepared to work hard shouldn’t be rewarded by a distribution which aims for parity, better described as mediocrity. Why punish those individuals who put in the time and work to build something special versus the lazy complainers?Guest wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:01 amI am a huge fan of 'convening' at all levels including AAA. The convening is a two step process, one is with the Board of the AAA team and one is with the G itself. The culture of the AAA loop should be 'parity' across the 12 teams. This will be of benefit to all AAA players including the ones on the supposedly top talented team. New player needs to go through a convening process .. best for this player to go to team X as he is too good for team Y. You get the idea. Parents and kids need to see the forest through the trees.Guest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:42 pm
Tell us your kid didn’t make AAA without telling us your kid didn’t make AAA.
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Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke
Are you kidding! Are you seriously saying you shouldn't go an extra mile, do something more than just follow like sheep? Why would you treat the indifferent, lazy organization the same as one who sets the bar much higher? I've worked with HC, been part of the POE and I can assure you HC and the G embrace those successful organizations and teams and laud their performances. Far too many organizations set the bar far too low then complain when they can't compete. They would rather tear a team down than put in the extra effort to be successful themselves. I'm sorry this is competitive hockey and not everyone is created equal.Guest wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:44 amYou don't get it. Hockey Canada sets the condition for expectations at the rep level. Both from coaching, ice time, game time, development, culture .. all of it. It is your job to follow it!! Not 'tweak it', not 'add to it', not provide a team that is outside expectations from Hockey Canada. If you feel differently, work with Hockey Canada and reset expectations across AAA or across rep so all teams understand the criteria and meet the criteria. You attracting the 17 kids that both want, pay and receive a program that is set differently from the others smells bad. You don't 'punish' individuals, you get those individuals spread across all teams so they bring the entire competition loop up. Show some leadership Pal.Guest wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:19 amThis process totally overlooks the fact that some organizations have more resources and work harder than others. It punishes the good and rewards the mediocre and poor. If I have better coaching, more ice time, provide dryland training, do baseline testing, have nutritional expertise, seek out top level competition and have a structured educational component there is a good chance I will be able to attract top calibre players to my program. Whereas a program not offering these elements or not prepared to work hard shouldn’t be rewarded by a distribution which aims for parity, better described as mediocrity. Why punish those individuals who put in the time and work to build something special versus the lazy complainers?Guest wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:01 amI am a huge fan of 'convening' at all levels including AAA. The convening is a two step process, one is with the Board of the AAA team and one is with the G itself. The culture of the AAA loop should be 'parity' across the 12 teams. This will be of benefit to all AAA players including the ones on the supposedly top talented team. New player needs to go through a convening process .. best for this player to go to team X as he is too good for team Y. You get the idea. Parents and kids need to see the forest through the trees.Guest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:42 pm
Tell us your kid didn’t make AAA without telling us your kid didn’t make AAA.
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Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke
Shut up nerdGuest wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:01 amI am a huge fan of 'convening' at all levels including AAA. The convening is a two step process, one is with the Board of the AAA team and one is with the G itself. The culture of the AAA loop should be 'parity' across the 12 teams. This will be of benefit to all AAA players including the ones on the supposedly top talented team. New player needs to go through a convening process .. best for this player to go to team X as he is too good for team Y. You get the idea. Parents and kids need to see the forest through the trees.Guest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:42 pmGuest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:57 pmOpen borders means it is about to get a whole lot worse for parity outside the GGuest wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 12:38 pmIt's not about winning... it's about $$$$$$$$Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 12:30 pm The GTHL is terribly run league. It's essentially 2 tiers built into 1.
the top 4 teams are one level, and the bottom 8 are the next. What this means is that for the most part the top 4 teams will always win against the bottom 8. If a player develops over a season or two on a 7/8/9/10 whatever team, he'll be picked up by a top four team and move.
This terrible for player development, as league parity and testing yourself in competition of an equal caliber are key components over the LONG journey of development. What the GTHL has done is create all-star teams, and they have made winning easy for these players. What they don't develop though is the character components. Things like how to find an extra gear when you're down, how to lose with class-figure out what went wrong, what you can do better, and come out hungrier to win next time. Players lack resiliency and don't know what it's like to lose.
The US NTDP is the best format, and they set it up for these teams to lose more than they win. Imagine that.
Tell us your kid didn’t make AAA without telling us your kid didn’t make AAA.
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Re: AAA hockey an unbalanced joke
Again it won’t happen. Parents and coaches colluding as early as age 6 to have a team put together for U10.Guest wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:13 pmShut up nerdGuest wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:01 amI am a huge fan of 'convening' at all levels including AAA. The convening is a two step process, one is with the Board of the AAA team and one is with the G itself. The culture of the AAA loop should be 'parity' across the 12 teams. This will be of benefit to all AAA players including the ones on the supposedly top talented team. New player needs to go through a convening process .. best for this player to go to team X as he is too good for team Y. You get the idea. Parents and kids need to see the forest through the trees.Guest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:42 pmGuest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:57 pmOpen borders means it is about to get a whole lot worse for parity outside the GGuest wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 12:38 pmIt's not about winning... it's about $$$$$$$$Guest wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 12:30 pm The GTHL is terribly run league. It's essentially 2 tiers built into 1.
the top 4 teams are one level, and the bottom 8 are the next. What this means is that for the most part the top 4 teams will always win against the bottom 8. If a player develops over a season or two on a 7/8/9/10 whatever team, he'll be picked up by a top four team and move.
This terrible for player development, as league parity and testing yourself in competition of an equal caliber are key components over the LONG journey of development. What the GTHL has done is create all-star teams, and they have made winning easy for these players. What they don't develop though is the character components. Things like how to find an extra gear when you're down, how to lose with class-figure out what went wrong, what you can do better, and come out hungrier to win next time. Players lack resiliency and don't know what it's like to lose.
The US NTDP is the best format, and they set it up for these teams to lose more than they win. Imagine that.
Tell us your kid didn’t make AAA without telling us your kid didn’t make AAA.
Only way to have any parity would be a draft.
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