OHF Tampering Call with coaches

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U9MD kids still have to follow boundaries within OMHA. Sounds like a question for your home centre. Seems dumb but that’s how the policy reads currently…
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Our current coach has told the team he will be the coach next year. Has already told one kid he is signed and probably more. Has also claimed he has a top kid from a neighboring centre joining the squad. They have the rules in place but clearly nobody follows them.
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Guest wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:30 am Our current coach has told the team he will be the coach next year. Has already told one kid he is signed and probably more. Has also claimed he has a top kid from a neighboring centre joining the squad. They have the rules in place but clearly nobody follows them.
You are naive to think coaches wouldn’t be doing this.
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15 game suspension and 5000.00 fine to the coach. You would think they would be more careful. Clearly organizations and the ohf don't actually care.
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Guest wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:29 am 15 game suspension and 5000.00 fine to the coach. You would think they would be more careful. Clearly organizations and the ohf don't actually care.
Fine a coach and the coach will simply quit. This is all smoke and mirrors

Good luck proving it
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Guest wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:29 am 15 game suspension and 5000.00 fine to the coach. You would think they would be more careful. Clearly organizations and the ohf don't actually care.
Well if they are going to do something they need to do it at the paid coach level first - AAA and AA - don't hit a parent volunteer until you get rid of the behaviour above. They are ongoing now for those levels
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Guest wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:29 am 15 game suspension and 5000.00 fine to the coach. You would think they would be more careful. Clearly organizations and the ohf don't actually care.
You can announce who your coaches are on February 15th but since applications are due in the beginning of January, they have probably already told the person that they are the coach. Maybe he was also the only one to apply?

We all know recruiting happens "illegally" but coaches would be pretty stupid to put any information in an email. All of this illegal activity is done through talk or through a proxy.

With open borders the "illegal" tampering is definitely ramping up.

I'm not sure there's really a way to control it since there's no email trail to prove anything.
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Guest wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:52 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:29 am 15 game suspension and 5000.00 fine to the coach. You would think they would be more careful. Clearly organizations and the ohf don't actually care.
You can announce who your coaches are on February 15th but since applications are due in the beginning of January, they have probably already told the person that they are the coach. Maybe he was also the only one to apply?

We all know recruiting happens "illegally" but coaches would be pretty stupid to put any information in an email. All of this illegal activity is done through talk or through a proxy.

With open borders the "illegal" tampering is definitely ramping up.

I'm not sure there's really a way to control it since there's no email trail to prove anything.
Get used to it boys, it’s a new dawn of minor hockey. GTHA has been doing it this way for years
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Guest wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:25 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:52 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:29 am 15 game suspension and 5000.00 fine to the coach. You would think they would be more careful. Clearly organizations and the ohf don't actually care.
You can announce who your coaches are on February 15th but since applications are due in the beginning of January, they have probably already told the person that they are the coach. Maybe he was also the only one to apply?

We all know recruiting happens "illegally" but coaches would be pretty stupid to put any information in an email. All of this illegal activity is done through talk or through a proxy.

With open borders the "illegal" tampering is definitely ramping up.

I'm not sure there's really a way to control it since there's no email trail to prove anything.
Get used to it boys, it’s a new dawn of minor hockey. GTHA has been doing it this way for years
"If you ain't cheatin', you ain't trying'"

This has been going on for a long time. There's no way for the OHF to police it besides having parents complain but that process takes months.

Would a "legal" tampering period work better? Coaches named Feb 15th, legal tampering can start March 1st?
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Guest wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:00 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:25 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:52 pm
Guest wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:29 am 15 game suspension and 5000.00 fine to the coach. You would think they would be more careful. Clearly organizations and the ohf don't actually care.
You can announce who your coaches are on February 15th but since applications are due in the beginning of January, they have probably already told the person that they are the coach. Maybe he was also the only one to apply?

We all know recruiting happens "illegally" but coaches would be pretty stupid to put any information in an email. All of this illegal activity is done through talk or through a proxy.

With open borders the "illegal" tampering is definitely ramping up.

I'm not sure there's really a way to control it since there's no email trail to prove anything.
Get used to it boys, it’s a new dawn of minor hockey. GTHA has been doing it this way for years
"If you ain't cheatin', you ain't trying'"

This has been going on for a long time. There's no way for the OHF to police it besides having parents complain but that process takes months.

Would a "legal" tampering period work better? Coaches named Feb 15th, legal tampering can start March 1st?
I would break it into 2 parts
1 - teams should be allowed to publicize and have skates as of coach assignment. Just let them be planned. They are done for AAA under paid coaches, so let everyone do it. It's a skate, anyone can come out, decouple from notion of tampering. Don't penalize people just because they are coaching and don't have a hockey school to run these skates under. Same idea with paid schools where rule is you need to publish well in advance.
2 - underground commits etc will always happen, can try to hold the line there as the OHF, but in reality there's no way to stop that. But can continue to reiterate it shouldn't be done.
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