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Beast tryouts, despite some weak spots I won’t go into here, were promising. The team must finish no lower than the top 5. A finish above 3rd place would be considered a success.
However, do not underestimate VP and VR. Both teams were strong last year, both have good coaches and dedicated parents, and both are attractive options for strong players — whether AAA players looking to move down or nearby OMHA players from the York region. Moreover, VR is a huge and respectable association with many teams at all levels, they have a lot of depth.
I wouldn’t be surprised if MNS slips in the standings. Their ruthless approach to ignoring 3rd shift kids may backfire. Some teams have developed all their players equally, and their 3rd lines may end up stronger than MNS kids who have had little to no game practice for two seasons.
You folks spent all last summer underestimating MNS and predicting a last or near to last place finish. Instead of having learned a lesson, we are now in the same situation.

Do you think that the #1 team last year didn't have parents of top kids from every other team and AAA drop outs calling? And instead of taking them you think the coach kept his bottom players?

Mate...
You mean to say that the coach failed to develop part of the team and changed them, so that new ones(or weaker ones from last season) will polish the bench going forward? Are you sure that your coach moves by kids best interest and not using them as exhausting parts?
U10-12 should be about development not trophies, you will find this out no later than in 2 years.
You mean to say your kid didnt develop? Several kids developed very well actually extrememly well. Several kids spent less totals hours on the ice in any capacity than others and still developed better than other kids. Perhaps it's time to ask your kid why they didnt work as hard in practice? Ever think of that? Development happens in practice not games.

I think it's time to ask yourself why your child isn't progressing and more importantly your child.
Bro wants his kid to play on a top AA team but Bro also wants that team to not care about winning trophies ?

Its an interesting idea ,I will give him that much.
We aren't all searching for top teams but for development at this age with a coach who has an understanding of the game, how to teach and motivate kids at this age to be their best, how to run good practices that are intense and varied to keep the kids sharp and engaged etc etc. If a coach has a team that is doing very well he should feel proud and continue on that path instead of getting drunk on the concept of winning and forgetting about development halfway through the regular season. That's what doesn't line up with the initial pitch, surely you can understand it as it's very simple.
Glad you used the word drunk cause that's what you sound like.

Many kids have "developed"

If your child didn't, it's not the coaches fault. Shifting blame to a coach when 80% of the team developed is wild. You'd rather have less skilled player dictate outcomes than the kids who deserve the ice time lol another wild thought.
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Re: 2015 AA

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Guest wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:12 am 1. FT
2. MNS
3. MB/VR
4. VP

5. TE
6. DD
7. TW
8. ST

9. WML
10. MT
11. HV
12. MJ
13. TA

Let's be honest, it'll be very similar to last year on the upper band. They would have slimmed out some of their kids from the U9 switch to U10 as they've had a year of looking at their players/competition, with pickups and talent upgrade.

For the one's complaining about tryouts in general...agree with other poster, stick to A or HL. If you're looking at opportunities for your kid at that point, you have to be realistic. There are very few spots available for most teams by the time tryouts come around. When you get to the tryout and you see kids with the team's jersey or their affiliate hockey skill program, they're probably on the team, you then count them. Then out of the other kids there's probably 1 or 2 that have already been given a spot as well. That typically leaves you with 1 spot at most. If you're complaining about a room full of kids that believe they have a spot on a team, and various teams padding their pockets, you're the one padding the pockets, without being logical. Whether this is right or wrong for tryouts, it is what it is and you just have to navigate that reality throughout the year.

This is the most common sense post in the history of this place.

Beast and Toros are going to be very firmly alot ahead in the standings. I dont know who toros have thats new but they didnt lose the top Forward. Beast skates were shockingly strong. Dont think they lose more than a game or two and it would only be to toros.

MNS has good coach who gets the best of group fits a notch below maybe with Vaughn teams or below but above TE. TE got good at year end.
Beast tryouts, despite some weak spots I won’t go into here, were promising. The team must finish no lower than the top 5. A finish above 3rd place would be considered a success.
However, do not underestimate VP and VR. Both teams were strong last year, both have good coaches and dedicated parents, and both are attractive options for strong players — whether AAA players looking to move down or nearby OMHA players from the York region. Moreover, VR is a huge and respectable association with many teams at all levels, they have a lot of depth.
I wouldn’t be surprised if MNS slips in the standings. Their ruthless approach to ignoring 3rd shift kids may backfire. Some teams have developed all their players equally, and their 3rd lines may end up stronger than MNS kids who have had little to no game practice for two seasons.
You folks spent all last summer underestimating MNS and predicting a last or near to last place finish. Instead of having learned a lesson, we are now in the same situation.

Do you think that the #1 team last year didn't have parents of top kids from every other team and AAA drop outs calling? And instead of taking them you think the coach kept his bottom players?

Mate...
You mean to say that the coach failed to develop part of the team and changed them, so that new ones(or weaker ones from last season) will polish the bench going forward? Are you sure that your coach moves by kids best interest and not using them as exhausting parts?
U10-12 should be about development not trophies, you will find this out no later than in 2 years.
You mean to say your kid didnt develop? Several kids developed very well actually extrememly well. Several kids spent less totals hours on the ice in any capacity than others and still developed better than other kids. Perhaps it's time to ask your kid why they didnt work as hard in practice? Ever think of that? Development happens in practice not games.

I think it's time to ask yourself why your child isn't progressing and more importantly your child.
Skills and skating develop at practices.

Game play, awareness and positioning develop at games.

You need to have both.
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This is the most common sense post in the history of this place.

Beast and Toros are going to be very firmly alot ahead in the standings. I dont know who toros have thats new but they didnt lose the top Forward. Beast skates were shockingly strong. Dont think they lose more than a game or two and it would only be to toros.

MNS has good coach who gets the best of group fits a notch below maybe with Vaughn teams or below but above TE. TE got good at year end.
Beast tryouts, despite some weak spots I won’t go into here, were promising. The team must finish no lower than the top 5. A finish above 3rd place would be considered a success.
However, do not underestimate VP and VR. Both teams were strong last year, both have good coaches and dedicated parents, and both are attractive options for strong players — whether AAA players looking to move down or nearby OMHA players from the York region. Moreover, VR is a huge and respectable association with many teams at all levels, they have a lot of depth.
I wouldn’t be surprised if MNS slips in the standings. Their ruthless approach to ignoring 3rd shift kids may backfire. Some teams have developed all their players equally, and their 3rd lines may end up stronger than MNS kids who have had little to no game practice for two seasons.
You folks spent all last summer underestimating MNS and predicting a last or near to last place finish. Instead of having learned a lesson, we are now in the same situation.

Do you think that the #1 team last year didn't have parents of top kids from every other team and AAA drop outs calling? And instead of taking them you think the coach kept his bottom players?

Mate...
You mean to say that the coach failed to develop part of the team and changed them, so that new ones(or weaker ones from last season) will polish the bench going forward? Are you sure that your coach moves by kids best interest and not using them as exhausting parts?
U10-12 should be about development not trophies, you will find this out no later than in 2 years.
You mean to say your kid didnt develop? Several kids developed very well actually extrememly well. Several kids spent less totals hours on the ice in any capacity than others and still developed better than other kids. Perhaps it's time to ask your kid why they didnt work as hard in practice? Ever think of that? Development happens in practice not games.

I think it's time to ask yourself why your child isn't progressing and more importantly your child.
Skills and skating develop at practices.

Game play, awareness and positioning develop at games.

You need to have both.
Good coaches simulate game scenarios in practice. How else are you to evaluate your talent? If awareness and positioning isn't their in practice don't expect to play in games. Getting danced over and over again in a practice won't get you more minutes in a game.
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Re: 2015 AA

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Beast tryouts, despite some weak spots I won’t go into here, were promising. The team must finish no lower than the top 5. A finish above 3rd place would be considered a success.
However, do not underestimate VP and VR. Both teams were strong last year, both have good coaches and dedicated parents, and both are attractive options for strong players — whether AAA players looking to move down or nearby OMHA players from the York region. Moreover, VR is a huge and respectable association with many teams at all levels, they have a lot of depth.
I wouldn’t be surprised if MNS slips in the standings. Their ruthless approach to ignoring 3rd shift kids may backfire. Some teams have developed all their players equally, and their 3rd lines may end up stronger than MNS kids who have had little to no game practice for two seasons.
You folks spent all last summer underestimating MNS and predicting a last or near to last place finish. Instead of having learned a lesson, we are now in the same situation.

Do you think that the #1 team last year didn't have parents of top kids from every other team and AAA drop outs calling? And instead of taking them you think the coach kept his bottom players?

Mate...
You mean to say that the coach failed to develop part of the team and changed them, so that new ones(or weaker ones from last season) will polish the bench going forward? Are you sure that your coach moves by kids best interest and not using them as exhausting parts?
U10-12 should be about development not trophies, you will find this out no later than in 2 years.
You mean to say your kid didnt develop? Several kids developed very well actually extrememly well. Several kids spent less totals hours on the ice in any capacity than others and still developed better than other kids. Perhaps it's time to ask your kid why they didnt work as hard in practice? Ever think of that? Development happens in practice not games.

I think it's time to ask yourself why your child isn't progressing and more importantly your child.
Skills and skating develop at practices.

Game play, awareness and positioning develop at games.

You need to have both.
Good coaches simulate game scenarios in practice. How else are you to evaluate your talent? If awareness and positioning isn't their in practice don't expect to play in games. Getting danced over and over again in a practice won't get you more minutes in a game.
Nothing personal but you just don’t understand anything about kids development in sports. If you want to dive deeper into the subject start with reading Swedish manual for minor coaches. You can find it online. It briefly covers a lot of areas from physical development to sleep and nutrition of young athletes. If you like move on reading biographies of top athletes and coaches. Start with Ibrahimovich and Fergusson.

For now just a short example. You have a tall defender in MNS, I think number 2. He is not skilled, slow and a poor skater. But he is a clever kid, predicts where the puck will be, can start an attack with first pass or decide whether to try to score from the blue line or pass it, a skill you train in games only. Leave this kid without game practice for a month or 2, he will loose match sharpness and you have an A level player at best. If MNS coach was interested in kids development he would tell his parents how and where to improve kid’s skating and ask them to follow strict diet coupled with intensive dry land practices and you would get a very confident AAA player in a season.
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Yeah your books seem to be doing you wonders keep reading as your child still doesn't have a team after tryouts
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Guest wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:57 pm Yeah your books seem to be doing you wonders keep reading as your child still doesn't have a team after tryouts
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Re: 2015 AA

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You folks spent all last summer underestimating MNS and predicting a last or near to last place finish. Instead of having learned a lesson, we are now in the same situation.

Do you think that the #1 team last year didn't have parents of top kids from every other team and AAA drop outs calling? And instead of taking them you think the coach kept his bottom players?

Mate...
You mean to say that the coach failed to develop part of the team and changed them, so that new ones(or weaker ones from last season) will polish the bench going forward? Are you sure that your coach moves by kids best interest and not using them as exhausting parts?
U10-12 should be about development not trophies, you will find this out no later than in 2 years.
You mean to say your kid didnt develop? Several kids developed very well actually extrememly well. Several kids spent less totals hours on the ice in any capacity than others and still developed better than other kids. Perhaps it's time to ask your kid why they didnt work as hard in practice? Ever think of that? Development happens in practice not games.

I think it's time to ask yourself why your child isn't progressing and more importantly your child.
Skills and skating develop at practices.

Game play, awareness and positioning develop at games.

You need to have both.
Good coaches simulate game scenarios in practice. How else are you to evaluate your talent? If awareness and positioning isn't their in practice don't expect to play in games. Getting danced over and over again in a practice won't get you more minutes in a game.
Nothing personal but you just don’t understand anything about kids development in sports. If you want to dive deeper into the subject start with reading Swedish manual for minor coaches. You can find it online. It briefly covers a lot of areas from physical development to sleep and nutrition of young athletes. If you like move on reading biographies of top athletes and coaches. Start with Ibrahimovich and Fergusson.

For now just a short example. You have a tall defender in MNS, I think number 2. He is not skilled, slow and a poor skater. But he is a clever kid, predicts where the puck will be, can start an attack with first pass or decide whether to try to score from the blue line or pass it, a skill you train in games only. Leave this kid without game practice for a month or 2, he will loose match sharpness and you have an A level player at best. If MNS coach was interested in kids development he would tell his parents how and where to improve kid’s skating and ask them to follow strict diet coupled with intensive dry land practices and you would get a very confident AAA player in a season.
That doesn’t ring a bell, the two tall D on MNS were both good and played on their PP and PK.

If it’s 2 then you must be thinking of 20?
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Guest wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:35 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:03 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:49 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:45 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:34 am
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You folks spent all last summer underestimating MNS and predicting a last or near to last place finish. Instead of having learned a lesson, we are now in the same situation.

Do you think that the #1 team last year didn't have parents of top kids from every other team and AAA drop outs calling? And instead of taking them you think the coach kept his bottom players?

Mate...
You mean to say that the coach failed to develop part of the team and changed them, so that new ones(or weaker ones from last season) will polish the bench going forward? Are you sure that your coach moves by kids best interest and not using them as exhausting parts?
U10-12 should be about development not trophies, you will find this out no later than in 2 years.
You mean to say your kid didnt develop? Several kids developed very well actually extrememly well. Several kids spent less totals hours on the ice in any capacity than others and still developed better than other kids. Perhaps it's time to ask your kid why they didnt work as hard in practice? Ever think of that? Development happens in practice not games.

I think it's time to ask yourself why your child isn't progressing and more importantly your child.
Skills and skating develop at practices.

Game play, awareness and positioning develop at games.

You need to have both.
Good coaches simulate game scenarios in practice. How else are you to evaluate your talent? If awareness and positioning isn't their in practice don't expect to play in games. Getting danced over and over again in a practice won't get you more minutes in a game.
Nothing personal but you just don’t understand anything about kids development in sports. If you want to dive deeper into the subject start with reading Swedish manual for minor coaches. You can find it online. It briefly covers a lot of areas from physical development to sleep and nutrition of young athletes. If you like move on reading biographies of top athletes and coaches. Start with Ibrahimovich and Fergusson.

For now just a short example. You have a tall defender in MNS, I think number 2. He is not skilled, slow and a poor skater. But he is a clever kid, predicts where the puck will be, can start an attack with first pass or decide whether to try to score from the blue line or pass it, a skill you train in games only. Leave this kid without game practice for a month or 2, he will loose match sharpness and you have an A level player at best. If MNS coach was interested in kids development he would tell his parents how and where to improve kid’s skating and ask them to follow strict diet coupled with intensive dry land practices and you would get a very confident AAA player in a season.
Bro you’re a grown man who lives in a library and is calling a 9 year old kid fat? For the record where is your son playing?
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Guest wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:03 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:49 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:45 am
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:34 am
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You folks spent all last summer underestimating MNS and predicting a last or near to last place finish. Instead of having learned a lesson, we are now in the same situation.

Do you think that the #1 team last year didn't have parents of top kids from every other team and AAA drop outs calling? And instead of taking them you think the coach kept his bottom players?

Mate...
You mean to say that the coach failed to develop part of the team and changed them, so that new ones(or weaker ones from last season) will polish the bench going forward? Are you sure that your coach moves by kids best interest and not using them as exhausting parts?
U10-12 should be about development not trophies, you will find this out no later than in 2 years.
You mean to say your kid didnt develop? Several kids developed very well actually extrememly well. Several kids spent less totals hours on the ice in any capacity than others and still developed better than other kids. Perhaps it's time to ask your kid why they didnt work as hard in practice? Ever think of that? Development happens in practice not games.

I think it's time to ask yourself why your child isn't progressing and more importantly your child.
Skills and skating develop at practices.

Game play, awareness and positioning develop at games.

You need to have both.
Good coaches simulate game scenarios in practice. How else are you to evaluate your talent? If awareness and positioning isn't their in practice don't expect to play in games. Getting danced over and over again in a practice won't get you more minutes in a game.
Nothing personal but you just don’t understand anything about kids development in sports. If you want to dive deeper into the subject start with reading Swedish manual for minor coaches. You can find it online. It briefly covers a lot of areas from physical development to sleep and nutrition of young athletes. If you like move on reading biographies of top athletes and coaches. Start with Ibrahimovich and Fergusson.

For now just a short example. You have a tall defender in MNS, I think number 2. He is not skilled, slow and a poor skater. But he is a clever kid, predicts where the puck will be, can start an attack with first pass or decide whether to try to score from the blue line or pass it, a skill you train in games only. Leave this kid without game practice for a month or 2, he will loose match sharpness and you have an A level player at best. If MNS coach was interested in kids development he would tell his parents how and where to improve kid’s skating and ask them to follow strict diet coupled with intensive dry land practices and you would get a very confident AAA player in a season.
have u tried reaching out to MNS coach to offer your expertise?
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Guest wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:35 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:03 pm
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Guest wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:45 am
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You mean to say that the coach failed to develop part of the team and changed them, so that new ones(or weaker ones from last season) will polish the bench going forward? Are you sure that your coach moves by kids best interest and not using them as exhausting parts?
U10-12 should be about development not trophies, you will find this out no later than in 2 years.
You mean to say your kid didnt develop? Several kids developed very well actually extrememly well. Several kids spent less totals hours on the ice in any capacity than others and still developed better than other kids. Perhaps it's time to ask your kid why they didnt work as hard in practice? Ever think of that? Development happens in practice not games.

I think it's time to ask yourself why your child isn't progressing and more importantly your child.
Skills and skating develop at practices.

Game play, awareness and positioning develop at games.

You need to have both.
Good coaches simulate game scenarios in practice. How else are you to evaluate your talent? If awareness and positioning isn't their in practice don't expect to play in games. Getting danced over and over again in a practice won't get you more minutes in a game.
Nothing personal but you just don’t understand anything about kids development in sports. If you want to dive deeper into the subject start with reading Swedish manual for minor coaches. You can find it online. It briefly covers a lot of areas from physical development to sleep and nutrition of young athletes. If you like move on reading biographies of top athletes and coaches. Start with Ibrahimovich and Fergusson.

For now just a short example. You have a tall defender in MNS, I think number 2. He is not skilled, slow and a poor skater. But he is a clever kid, predicts where the puck will be, can start an attack with first pass or decide whether to try to score from the blue line or pass it, a skill you train in games only. Leave this kid without game practice for a month or 2, he will loose match sharpness and you have an A level player at best. If MNS coach was interested in kids development he would tell his parents how and where to improve kid’s skating and ask them to follow strict diet coupled with intensive dry land practices and you would get a very confident AAA player in a season.
have u tried reaching out to MNS coach to offer your expertise?
Quite the opposite. He called me few times offering a spot. He even said that if we ever decide to join MNS even mid season he will find a place no matter how full will be the roster. I know why he wins and how. He is a great coach, but not for this age group. Give him 15 random kids from community skating class plus a good goalie and the will start winning in a few weeks time. Right now move Applewood squad except centre and goalie (these 2 are good and are getting better) back to Applewood and Applewood’s performance will not change.
for us development is priority right now. At 10 a lot of attention should be paid to speed and hockey iq. So we went to a team where kids skate a lot and coaches let them be creative. Right now I believe it will be more beneficial to play against a well structured team, rather than in it. This is one reason. The other, Adam is not giving equal time. While it’s fine in u13-14, in u10-11 it creates unnecessary tensions between kids and parents, envy to those who play more, something I wanted to avoid.
It’s just my opinion. I don’t want to discourage any parents from MNS or argue which team will finish higher.
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