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Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:30 am

Wake up.

If a person chooses to engage somebody and say something or do something to provoke them, they have no say how that person chooses to respond. They don't have the privilege to provide that person with a list of what they consider to be acceptable responses.

In other words, if you don't want that person to respond in what you would consider an excessive or violent manor...its in your best interest to compete with decorum and sportsmanship.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:41 am

So penalties (including dirty penalties) are the result of someone asking for it? Tell that to a kid on our team who is an exceptional player, got hit from behind and now can't play due to a broken collar bone for the next 6 weeks. You can compete with decorum and sportsmanship but that doesn't make a player immune to the little assholes looking for any excuse to take someone out. You wake up.

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Guest wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:54 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 4:14 pm https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/hockey ... -1.6609450

Will the GTHL step up and conduct a serious investigation into the culture at Forest Hill, Toronto's most entitled hockey club.

Its name calling...the kid needs to get over it. Reality is that there are ignorant people on this planet and nobody can control how they think or what they say.

My kid and plenty of his teammates and friends of various ethnicities heard racial chirps throughout their entire minor hockey experience. These kids laughed at the small minded attitudes and carried on. None are traumatized and they have grown into a well grounded group of young people who are all doing very well in life. TBH I'd have no problem if my kid responded with a 5 min slash on the other kids wrist...guaranteed that kid will re-consider what he says next time they meet.

IMO - blaming a racial chirp for mental anguish that caused a kid to have a bad game is nothing more than excuse.

Its wrong, I don't condone it, I think people with racists attitudes are scum...but there is no way in hell I'll ever let racist vocabulary of an idiot ruin my day or be a distraction to whatever it is I'd rather be doing.

I don't think violence is an appropriate reaction.

Condoning your kid slashing because another player called him a name.............piss poor parenting.

It’s how players police themselves when greasy players do things that the ref doesn’t see or hear.

Slashing isn’t violent, it’s a penalty. Penalties are part of the game.

A 2 min or 5 min penalty is much less severe than a 3 game suspension for uttering a racial slur.

Players could also police themselves by taking the number of the player and making sure he is hit just a bit harder the next time he has the puck.

Violence never solves anything. Teaching your kid to retaliate in a violent way makes you part of a bigger problem.

Teach your kid to laugh at the dumb dumb using racial slurs. Much better effect.

Oh he laughs….I simply said I would have no problem taking a 5 min slash if he wanted to.

Allowing your kid to resort to violence is not a good look. It makes you part of the problem.

Slashing is a penalty and penalties are part of the game.

The league assess slashing as a penalty…2 min minor or 5 min major. Verbal abuse of an official is 10 min.
Hit from behind is 1 game suspension, while a racial slur is an automatic 2 game suspension.

You’re encouraging a kid to respond with a heavy body check in a single A non-contact game. If that isn’t violent and more dangerous considering the controversy surrounding bodychecking and concussions in minor hockey, then I don’t know what is. You’re a hypocrite.

If you think smacking an opponent on the wrist is “violent” and crossing the line of sportsmanship, then you really shouldn’t have your kids playing any physical sports.

I suspect your kid is type to run his mouth and the thought of another kid taking matters into his own hands is terrifies you.

So - when someone calls your kid a name in the school yard it's ok for them to grab a stick and assault the person?

Same thing. You're just hiding behind a sport. Your logic is garbage.

In the play ground - it would be assault with a weapon. Criminal offence.

On the ice - it would be slashing. 2 or 5 minute penalty.

Therefore not the same.

The fact that you’re unable to distinguish the difference speaks to your naivety.

OMG. The fact that you don't the difference proves that you're a moron.
Goon hockey is dead.

Wake up.

If a person chooses to engage somebody and say something or do something to provoke them, they have no say how that person chooses to respond. They don't have the privilege to provide that person with a list of what they consider to be acceptable responses.

In other words, if you don't want that person to respond in what you would consider an excessive or violent manor...its in your best interest to compete with decorum and sportsmanship.

So penalties (including dirty penalties) are the result of someone asking for it? Tell that to a kid on our team who is an exceptional player, got hit from behind and now can't play due to a broken collar bone for the next 6 weeks. You can compete with decorum and sportsmanship but that doesn't make a player immune to the little assholes looking for any excuse to take someone out. You wake up.

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:44 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:30 am

Wake up.

If a person chooses to engage somebody and say something or do something to provoke them, they have no say how that person chooses to respond. They don't have the privilege to provide that person with a list of what they consider to be acceptable responses.

In other words, if you don't want that person to respond in what you would consider an excessive or violent manor...its in your best interest to compete with decorum and sportsmanship.

LMAO - Word hurt this Pansy who in turn justifies using a weapon to respond to the words, because he can't control himself - but if you control yourself then you'll be fine around him.

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:47 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:41 am

So penalties (including dirty penalties) are the result of someone asking for it? Tell that to a kid on our team who is an exceptional player, got hit from behind and now can't play due to a broken collar bone for the next 6 weeks. You can compete with decorum and sportsmanship but that doesn't make a player immune to the little assholes looking for any excuse to take someone out. You wake up.

She doesn't understand she is supporting violence as a valid response because she can't control herself. But everyone else around her should control themselves.

LOLOLOLOL

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Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:41 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:30 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:01 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:44 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:45 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:43 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:29 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:40 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:00 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:56 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 11:05 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:54 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 4:14 pm https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/hockey ... -1.6609450

Will the GTHL step up and conduct a serious investigation into the culture at Forest Hill, Toronto's most entitled hockey club.

Its name calling...the kid needs to get over it. Reality is that there are ignorant people on this planet and nobody can control how they think or what they say.

My kid and plenty of his teammates and friends of various ethnicities heard racial chirps throughout their entire minor hockey experience. These kids laughed at the small minded attitudes and carried on. None are traumatized and they have grown into a well grounded group of young people who are all doing very well in life. TBH I'd have no problem if my kid responded with a 5 min slash on the other kids wrist...guaranteed that kid will re-consider what he says next time they meet.

IMO - blaming a racial chirp for mental anguish that caused a kid to have a bad game is nothing more than excuse.

Its wrong, I don't condone it, I think people with racists attitudes are scum...but there is no way in hell I'll ever let racist vocabulary of an idiot ruin my day or be a distraction to whatever it is I'd rather be doing.

I don't think violence is an appropriate reaction.

Condoning your kid slashing because another player called him a name.............piss poor parenting.

It’s how players police themselves when greasy players do things that the ref doesn’t see or hear.

Slashing isn’t violent, it’s a penalty. Penalties are part of the game.

A 2 min or 5 min penalty is much less severe than a 3 game suspension for uttering a racial slur.

Players could also police themselves by taking the number of the player and making sure he is hit just a bit harder the next time he has the puck.

Violence never solves anything. Teaching your kid to retaliate in a violent way makes you part of a bigger problem.

Teach your kid to laugh at the dumb dumb using racial slurs. Much better effect.

Oh he laughs….I simply said I would have no problem taking a 5 min slash if he wanted to.

Allowing your kid to resort to violence is not a good look. It makes you part of the problem.

Slashing is a penalty and penalties are part of the game.

The league assess slashing as a penalty…2 min minor or 5 min major. Verbal abuse of an official is 10 min.
Hit from behind is 1 game suspension, while a racial slur is an automatic 2 game suspension.

You’re encouraging a kid to respond with a heavy body check in a single A non-contact game. If that isn’t violent and more dangerous considering the controversy surrounding bodychecking and concussions in minor hockey, then I don’t know what is. You’re a hypocrite.

If you think smacking an opponent on the wrist is “violent” and crossing the line of sportsmanship, then you really shouldn’t have your kids playing any physical sports.

I suspect your kid is type to run his mouth and the thought of another kid taking matters into his own hands is terrifies you.

So - when someone calls your kid a name in the school yard it's ok for them to grab a stick and assault the person?

Same thing. You're just hiding behind a sport. Your logic is garbage.

In the play ground - it would be assault with a weapon. Criminal offence.

On the ice - it would be slashing. 2 or 5 minute penalty.

Therefore not the same.

The fact that you’re unable to distinguish the difference speaks to your naivety.

OMG. The fact that you don't the difference proves that you're a moron.
Goon hockey is dead.

Wake up.

If a person chooses to engage somebody and say something or do something to provoke them, they have no say how that person chooses to respond. They don't have the privilege to provide that person with a list of what they consider to be acceptable responses.

In other words, if you don't want that person to respond in what you would consider an excessive or violent manor...its in your best interest to compete with decorum and sportsmanship.

So penalties (including dirty penalties) are the result of someone asking for it? Tell that to a kid on our team who is an exceptional player, got hit from behind and now can't play due to a broken collar bone for the next 6 weeks. You can compete with decorum and sportsmanship but that doesn't make a player immune to the little assholes looking for any excuse to take someone out. You wake up.

Yes there are little assholes looking for an excuse...so don't give them one.

If you don't like the rules of the game, then don't sign your kid up.

6 weeks is fast...warning - its not the type of injury that should be "tested". Returning too soon could result in a re-fracture. Seen it a happen to a few kids.

Lots of broken collarbones in contact hockey - clean hits, dirty hits, open ice or along the boards. Sometimes the kid taking the hit and sometimes the kid delivering the hit. It was the most common injury in Bantam and Minor Midget.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:51 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:44 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:30 am

Wake up.

If a person chooses to engage somebody and say something or do something to provoke them, they have no say how that person chooses to respond. They don't have the privilege to provide that person with a list of what they consider to be acceptable responses.

In other words, if you don't want that person to respond in what you would consider an excessive or violent manor...its in your best interest to compete with decorum and sportsmanship.

LMAO - Word hurt this Pansy who in turn justifies using a weapon to respond to the words, because he can't control himself - but if you control yourself then you'll be fine around him.

Clearly a kid who decides to utter racial slurs hasn't been deterred by awareness campaigns or rules or expectations of his coaches or parents. He's weighed the consequences and is willing to risk it.

Those kids need a stronger deterrent.

FYI - the response is calculated, completely controlled and delivered with a grin.

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:06 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:47 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:41 am

So penalties (including dirty penalties) are the result of someone asking for it? Tell that to a kid on our team who is an exceptional player, got hit from behind and now can't play due to a broken collar bone for the next 6 weeks. You can compete with decorum and sportsmanship but that doesn't make a player immune to the little assholes looking for any excuse to take someone out. You wake up.

She doesn't understand she is supporting violence as a valid response because she can't control herself. But everyone else around her should control themselves.

LOLOLOLOL

Yup

If the system isn't going to handle it...I fully support players administering a little in-game justice.

If the coaches aren't going to intervene...I fully support the players policing themselves in the room.

If a kids parents aren't going to teach him right from wrong...eventually somebody who they've wronged will.

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Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:43 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:41 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:30 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:01 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:44 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:45 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:43 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:29 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:40 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:00 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:56 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 11:05 am

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:54 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 4:14 pm https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/hockey ... -1.6609450

Will the GTHL step up and conduct a serious investigation into the culture at Forest Hill, Toronto's most entitled hockey club.

Its name calling...the kid needs to get over it. Reality is that there are ignorant people on this planet and nobody can control how they think or what they say.

My kid and plenty of his teammates and friends of various ethnicities heard racial chirps throughout their entire minor hockey experience. These kids laughed at the small minded attitudes and carried on. None are traumatized and they have grown into a well grounded group of young people who are all doing very well in life. TBH I'd have no problem if my kid responded with a 5 min slash on the other kids wrist...guaranteed that kid will re-consider what he says next time they meet.

IMO - blaming a racial chirp for mental anguish that caused a kid to have a bad game is nothing more than excuse.

Its wrong, I don't condone it, I think people with racists attitudes are scum...but there is no way in hell I'll ever let racist vocabulary of an idiot ruin my day or be a distraction to whatever it is I'd rather be doing.

I don't think violence is an appropriate reaction.

Condoning your kid slashing because another player called him a name.............piss poor parenting.

It’s how players police themselves when greasy players do things that the ref doesn’t see or hear.

Slashing isn’t violent, it’s a penalty. Penalties are part of the game.

A 2 min or 5 min penalty is much less severe than a 3 game suspension for uttering a racial slur.

Players could also police themselves by taking the number of the player and making sure he is hit just a bit harder the next time he has the puck.

Violence never solves anything. Teaching your kid to retaliate in a violent way makes you part of a bigger problem.

Teach your kid to laugh at the dumb dumb using racial slurs. Much better effect.

Oh he laughs….I simply said I would have no problem taking a 5 min slash if he wanted to.

Allowing your kid to resort to violence is not a good look. It makes you part of the problem.

Slashing is a penalty and penalties are part of the game.

The league assess slashing as a penalty…2 min minor or 5 min major. Verbal abuse of an official is 10 min.
Hit from behind is 1 game suspension, while a racial slur is an automatic 2 game suspension.

You’re encouraging a kid to respond with a heavy body check in a single A non-contact game. If that isn’t violent and more dangerous considering the controversy surrounding bodychecking and concussions in minor hockey, then I don’t know what is. You’re a hypocrite.

If you think smacking an opponent on the wrist is “violent” and crossing the line of sportsmanship, then you really shouldn’t have your kids playing any physical sports.

I suspect your kid is type to run his mouth and the thought of another kid taking matters into his own hands is terrifies you.

So - when someone calls your kid a name in the school yard it's ok for them to grab a stick and assault the person?

Same thing. You're just hiding behind a sport. Your logic is garbage.

In the play ground - it would be assault with a weapon. Criminal offence.

On the ice - it would be slashing. 2 or 5 minute penalty.

Therefore not the same.

The fact that you’re unable to distinguish the difference speaks to your naivety.

OMG. The fact that you don't the difference proves that you're a moron.
Goon hockey is dead.

Wake up.

If a person chooses to engage somebody and say something or do something to provoke them, they have no say how that person chooses to respond. They don't have the privilege to provide that person with a list of what they consider to be acceptable responses.

In other words, if you don't want that person to respond in what you would consider an excessive or violent manor...its in your best interest to compete with decorum and sportsmanship.

So penalties (including dirty penalties) are the result of someone asking for it? Tell that to a kid on our team who is an exceptional player, got hit from behind and now can't play due to a broken collar bone for the next 6 weeks. You can compete with decorum and sportsmanship but that doesn't make a player immune to the little assholes looking for any excuse to take someone out. You wake up.

Yes there are little assholes looking for an excuse...so don't give them one.

If you don't like the rules of the game, then don't sign your kid up.

6 weeks is fast...warning - its not the type of injury that should be "tested". Returning too soon could result in a re-fracture. Seen it a happen to a few kids.

Lots of broken collarbones in contact hockey - clean hits, dirty hits, open ice or along the boards. Sometimes the kid taking the hit and sometimes the kid delivering the hit. It was the most common injury in Bantam and Minor Midget.

I think you missed the point they were trying to make.

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:31 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:51 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:44 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:30 am

Wake up.

If a person chooses to engage somebody and say something or do something to provoke them, they have no say how that person chooses to respond. They don't have the privilege to provide that person with a list of what they consider to be acceptable responses.

In other words, if you don't want that person to respond in what you would consider an excessive or violent manor...its in your best interest to compete with decorum and sportsmanship.

LMAO - Word hurt this Pansy who in turn justifies using a weapon to respond to the words, because he can't control himself - but if you control yourself then you'll be fine around him.

Clearly a kid who decides to utter racial slurs hasn't been deterred by awareness campaigns or rules or expectations of his coaches or parents. He's weighed the consequences and is willing to risk it.

Those kids need a stronger deterrent.

FYI - the response is calculated, completely controlled and delivered with a grin.

Hope your little kid likes the taste of stick as well. Because that's what's coming back at him.