Open borders coming in Ontario

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Re: Open borders coming in Ontario

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Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:23 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:03 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:46 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:28 am For years if you lived in Carlisle you had to go to Halton to play AAA.... now you have to go Hamilton..... is Carlisle one of these examples of a "Grey" area..... I know Halton has lost #'s in registration because of Credit River getting a AAA team.
In terms of travel, what would be reasonable AAA options for a kid from Carlisle if there are no spots in Hamilton, because the team is full of kids who arent from Hamilton?
Some kids just want to play AAA hockey against good competition.... rather than be a bottom player on a good team..... be a middle to top player on another team and get ice time.... believe it or not some kids and parents are o.k. with there kid being on a middle to low end team.... especially at a young age as long as the quality of coaching is there.... examples of centers that are closer to Carlisle than Hamilton.... you have Halton.... Burlington..... Cambridge and maybe even Guelph.
Oh I get it...icetime over wins. Agree.

My point is, that with open borders Hamilton could stack up with top players from Halton, Burlington, Cambridge and Guelph. Then players would gravitate to whichever centre is deemed the "next best option". Complete lack of parity in that region eliminates the "mid-pack" option.

Open borders in the O would be a teribble idea.
You must be an executive from a center that has poor programming, any center that has good coaches and good programming welcomes open borders. We need to stop forcing kids where they can play. Good players get locked into centers with bad programming or poor coaches. This insanity needs to stop, give people choice, and stop the 1990s way iof thinking. We are already way over regulated. I have been around for 20 years and do feel the dam is about to burst due to over regulations.
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Re: Open borders coming in Ontario

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Guest wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:33 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:23 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:03 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:46 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:28 am For years if you lived in Carlisle you had to go to Halton to play AAA.... now you have to go Hamilton..... is Carlisle one of these examples of a "Grey" area..... I know Halton has lost #'s in registration because of Credit River getting a AAA team.
In terms of travel, what would be reasonable AAA options for a kid from Carlisle if there are no spots in Hamilton, because the team is full of kids who arent from Hamilton?
Some kids just want to play AAA hockey against good competition.... rather than be a bottom player on a good team..... be a middle to top player on another team and get ice time.... believe it or not some kids and parents are o.k. with there kid being on a middle to low end team.... especially at a young age as long as the quality of coaching is there.... examples of centers that are closer to Carlisle than Hamilton.... you have Halton.... Burlington..... Cambridge and maybe even Guelph.
Oh I get it...icetime over wins. Agree.

My point is, that with open borders Hamilton could stack up with top players from Halton, Burlington, Cambridge and Guelph. Then players would gravitate to whichever centre is deemed the "next best option". Complete lack of parity in that region eliminates the "mid-pack" option.

Open borders in the O would be a teribble idea.
You must be an executive from a center that has poor programming, any center that has good coaches and good programming welcomes open borders. We need to stop forcing kids where they can play. Good players get locked into centers with bad programming or poor coaches. This insanity needs to stop, give people choice, and stop the 1990s way iof thinking. We are already way over regulated. I have been around for 20 years and do feel the dam is about to burst due to over regulations.
Sounds like you voted for Trudeau
Guest

Re: Open borders coming in Ontario

Post by Guest »

Guest wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:33 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:23 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:03 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:46 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:28 am For years if you lived in Carlisle you had to go to Halton to play AAA.... now you have to go Hamilton..... is Carlisle one of these examples of a "Grey" area..... I know Halton has lost #'s in registration because of Credit River getting a AAA team.
In terms of travel, what would be reasonable AAA options for a kid from Carlisle if there are no spots in Hamilton, because the team is full of kids who arent from Hamilton?
Some kids just want to play AAA hockey against good competition.... rather than be a bottom player on a good team..... be a middle to top player on another team and get ice time.... believe it or not some kids and parents are o.k. with there kid being on a middle to low end team.... especially at a young age as long as the quality of coaching is there.... examples of centers that are closer to Carlisle than Hamilton.... you have Halton.... Burlington..... Cambridge and maybe even Guelph.
Oh I get it...icetime over wins. Agree.

My point is, that with open borders Hamilton could stack up with top players from Halton, Burlington, Cambridge and Guelph. Then players would gravitate to whichever centre is deemed the "next best option". Complete lack of parity in that region eliminates the "mid-pack" option.

Open borders in the O would be a teribble idea.
You must be an executive from a center that has poor programming, any center that has good coaches and good programming welcomes open borders. We need to stop forcing kids where they can play. Good players get locked into centers with bad programming or poor coaches. This insanity needs to stop, give people choice, and stop the 1990s way iof thinking. We are already way over regulated. I have been around for 20 years and do feel the dam is about to burst due to over regulations.
Sounds like an executive from Guelph...LOL!...Poor programming
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Re: Open borders coming in Ontario

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Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:43 am
Guest wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:19 pm Well, open borders will be happening at AAA as trial for 2 years, its coming and will pass the omha agm this weekend. All you centers that hold kids will need to better up your programs, and its about time.

Well what happened at the OMHA AGM meeting on the weekend... did this pass? is this trial happening? if so when?
That’s the funny part. Do you think any of these guys went to the AGM to vote? I’m guessing no because otherwise we would have heard about it
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Re: Open borders coming in Ontario

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Guest wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:24 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:33 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:23 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:03 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:46 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:28 am For years if you lived in Carlisle you had to go to Halton to play AAA.... now you have to go Hamilton..... is Carlisle one of these examples of a "Grey" area..... I know Halton has lost #'s in registration because of Credit River getting a AAA team.
In terms of travel, what would be reasonable AAA options for a kid from Carlisle if there are no spots in Hamilton, because the team is full of kids who arent from Hamilton?
Some kids just want to play AAA hockey against good competition.... rather than be a bottom player on a good team..... be a middle to top player on another team and get ice time.... believe it or not some kids and parents are o.k. with there kid being on a middle to low end team.... especially at a young age as long as the quality of coaching is there.... examples of centers that are closer to Carlisle than Hamilton.... you have Halton.... Burlington..... Cambridge and maybe even Guelph.
Oh I get it...icetime over wins. Agree.

My point is, that with open borders Hamilton could stack up with top players from Halton, Burlington, Cambridge and Guelph. Then players would gravitate to whichever centre is deemed the "next best option". Complete lack of parity in that region eliminates the "mid-pack" option.

Open borders in the O would be a teribble idea.
You must be an executive from a center that has poor programming, any center that has good coaches and good programming welcomes open borders. We need to stop forcing kids where they can play. Good players get locked into centers with bad programming or poor coaches. This insanity needs to stop, give people choice, and stop the 1990s way iof thinking. We are already way over regulated. I have been around for 20 years and do feel the dam is about to burst due to over regulations.
Sounds like you voted for Trudeau
No that would be you. JT is a control freak who needs to force people into things they don't want. Free competition is the environment needed for innovation and improvement. People like you, who love Black Face, need to hide behind administrative protection to remain relevant. Let people have a say, have choice, and those involved will be "highly motivated" to be their best and treat people properly. Have a quality product, with quality people involved, treat people well, provide a product/service that has enough value for the money and time involved, and you'll attract people. It's called earning things on MERIT.

Sure have an agreed upon format of player movement to work towards some level of parity, but get out of the closed centre mentality-it's terrible, it's bad for value and for a quality product.
Guest

Re: Open borders coming in Ontario

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Guest wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:15 am
Guest wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:24 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:33 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:23 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:03 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:46 am

In terms of travel, what would be reasonable AAA options for a kid from Carlisle if there are no spots in Hamilton, because the team is full of kids who arent from Hamilton?
Some kids just want to play AAA hockey against good competition.... rather than be a bottom player on a good team..... be a middle to top player on another team and get ice time.... believe it or not some kids and parents are o.k. with there kid being on a middle to low end team.... especially at a young age as long as the quality of coaching is there.... examples of centers that are closer to Carlisle than Hamilton.... you have Halton.... Burlington..... Cambridge and maybe even Guelph.
Oh I get it...icetime over wins. Agree.

My point is, that with open borders Hamilton could stack up with top players from Halton, Burlington, Cambridge and Guelph. Then players would gravitate to whichever centre is deemed the "next best option". Complete lack of parity in that region eliminates the "mid-pack" option.

Open borders in the O would be a teribble idea.
You must be an executive from a center that has poor programming, any center that has good coaches and good programming welcomes open borders. We need to stop forcing kids where they can play. Good players get locked into centers with bad programming or poor coaches. This insanity needs to stop, give people choice, and stop the 1990s way iof thinking. We are already way over regulated. I have been around for 20 years and do feel the dam is about to burst due to over regulations.
Sounds like you voted for Trudeau
No that would be you. JT is a control freak who needs to force people into things they don't want. Free competition is the environment needed for innovation and improvement. People like you, who love Black Face, need to hide behind administrative protection to remain relevant. Let people have a say, have choice, and those involved will be "highly motivated" to be their best and treat people properly. Have a quality product, with quality people involved, treat people well, provide a product/service that has enough value for the money and time involved, and you'll attract people. It's called earning things on MERIT.

Sure have an agreed upon format of player movement to work towards some level of parity, but get out of the closed centre mentality-it's terrible, it's bad for value and for a quality product.
Has this been announced? Or was this just rumour. It would be incredible, I know a lot of kids on who would love to play for an experienced coach with character and a resume but currently feel trapped.
Guest

Re: Open borders coming in Ontario

Post by Guest »

Guest wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:40 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:15 am
Guest wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:24 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:33 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:23 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:03 am

Some kids just want to play AAA hockey against good competition.... rather than be a bottom player on a good team..... be a middle to top player on another team and get ice time.... believe it or not some kids and parents are o.k. with there kid being on a middle to low end team.... especially at a young age as long as the quality of coaching is there.... examples of centers that are closer to Carlisle than Hamilton.... you have Halton.... Burlington..... Cambridge and maybe even Guelph.
Oh I get it...icetime over wins. Agree.

My point is, that with open borders Hamilton could stack up with top players from Halton, Burlington, Cambridge and Guelph. Then players would gravitate to whichever centre is deemed the "next best option". Complete lack of parity in that region eliminates the "mid-pack" option.

Open borders in the O would be a teribble idea.
You must be an executive from a center that has poor programming, any center that has good coaches and good programming welcomes open borders. We need to stop forcing kids where they can play. Good players get locked into centers with bad programming or poor coaches. This insanity needs to stop, give people choice, and stop the 1990s way iof thinking. We are already way over regulated. I have been around for 20 years and do feel the dam is about to burst due to over regulations.
Sounds like you voted for Trudeau
No that would be you. JT is a control freak who needs to force people into things they don't want. Free competition is the environment needed for innovation and improvement. People like you, who love Black Face, need to hide behind administrative protection to remain relevant. Let people have a say, have choice, and those involved will be "highly motivated" to be their best and treat people properly. Have a quality product, with quality people involved, treat people well, provide a product/service that has enough value for the money and time involved, and you'll attract people. It's called earning things on MERIT.

Sure have an agreed upon format of player movement to work towards some level of parity, but get out of the closed centre mentality-it's terrible, it's bad for value and for a quality product.
Has this been announced? Or was this just rumour. It would be incredible, I know a lot of kids on who would love to play for an experienced coach with character and a resume but currently feel trapped.
This will never happen. They will lose too many centres which generate money for the higher ups. NEVER HAPPEN
Guest

Re: Open borders coming in Ontario

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Guest wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:14 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:40 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:15 am
Guest wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:24 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:33 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:23 am

Oh I get it...icetime over wins. Agree.

My point is, that with open borders Hamilton could stack up with top players from Halton, Burlington, Cambridge and Guelph. Then players would gravitate to whichever centre is deemed the "next best option". Complete lack of parity in that region eliminates the "mid-pack" option.

Open borders in the O would be a teribble idea.
You must be an executive from a center that has poor programming, any center that has good coaches and good programming welcomes open borders. We need to stop forcing kids where they can play. Good players get locked into centers with bad programming or poor coaches. This insanity needs to stop, give people choice, and stop the 1990s way iof thinking. We are already way over regulated. I have been around for 20 years and do feel the dam is about to burst due to over regulations.
Sounds like you voted for Trudeau
No that would be you. JT is a control freak who needs to force people into things they don't want. Free competition is the environment needed for innovation and improvement. People like you, who love Black Face, need to hide behind administrative protection to remain relevant. Let people have a say, have choice, and those involved will be "highly motivated" to be their best and treat people properly. Have a quality product, with quality people involved, treat people well, provide a product/service that has enough value for the money and time involved, and you'll attract people. It's called earning things on MERIT.

Sure have an agreed upon format of player movement to work towards some level of parity, but get out of the closed centre mentality-it's terrible, it's bad for value and for a quality product.
Has this been announced? Or was this just rumour. It would be incredible, I know a lot of kids on who would love to play for an experienced coach with character and a resume but currently feel trapped.
This will never happen. They will lose too many centres which generate money for the higher ups. NEVER HAPPEN
Guest

Re: Open borders coming in Ontario

Post by Guest »

Guest wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:15 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:14 pm
Guest wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:40 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:15 am
Guest wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:24 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:33 am

You must be an executive from a center that has poor programming, any center that has good coaches and good programming welcomes open borders. We need to stop forcing kids where they can play. Good players get locked into centers with bad programming or poor coaches. This insanity needs to stop, give people choice, and stop the 1990s way iof thinking. We are already way over regulated. I have been around for 20 years and do feel the dam is about to burst due to over regulations.
Sounds like you voted for Trudeau
No that would be you. JT is a control freak who needs to force people into things they don't want. Free competition is the environment needed for innovation and improvement. People like you, who love Black Face, need to hide behind administrative protection to remain relevant. Let people have a say, have choice, and those involved will be "highly motivated" to be their best and treat people properly. Have a quality product, with quality people involved, treat people well, provide a product/service that has enough value for the money and time involved, and you'll attract people. It's called earning things on MERIT.

Sure have an agreed upon format of player movement to work towards some level of parity, but get out of the closed centre mentality-it's terrible, it's bad for value and for a quality product.
Has this been announced? Or was this just rumour. It would be incredible, I know a lot of kids on who would love to play for an experienced coach with character and a resume but currently feel trapped.
This will never happen. They will lose too many centres which generate money for the higher ups. NEVER HAPPEN
I see both sides. I do think it would be good from a nepotism perspective. Accountability
Guest

Re: Open borders coming in Ontario

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Guest wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:24 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:33 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:23 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:03 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:46 am
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:28 am For years if you lived in Carlisle you had to go to Halton to play AAA.... now you have to go Hamilton..... is Carlisle one of these examples of a "Grey" area..... I know Halton has lost #'s in registration because of Credit River getting a AAA team.
In terms of travel, what would be reasonable AAA options for a kid from Carlisle if there are no spots in Hamilton, because the team is full of kids who arent from Hamilton?
Some kids just want to play AAA hockey against good competition.... rather than be a bottom player on a good team..... be a middle to top player on another team and get ice time.... believe it or not some kids and parents are o.k. with there kid being on a middle to low end team.... especially at a young age as long as the quality of coaching is there.... examples of centers that are closer to Carlisle than Hamilton.... you have Halton.... Burlington..... Cambridge and maybe even Guelph.
Oh I get it...icetime over wins. Agree.

My point is, that with open borders Hamilton could stack up with top players from Halton, Burlington, Cambridge and Guelph. Then players would gravitate to whichever centre is deemed the "next best option". Complete lack of parity in that region eliminates the "mid-pack" option.

Open borders in the O would be a teribble idea.


Take the best players from all those centres and put them together and it’s an 8th place team in the G anyway
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