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Re: Goaltender Incentives

by Guest » Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:14 am

Guest wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:45 am
Guest wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:47 pm In addition to a goalie training budget, we offer steep discounts on the organization fees so long as the roster is full with 2 goalies. This is at the U14A level.

All-in, goalies pay about 60% of what a player does. I think its very fair.
I agree that goalies need to pay something but buying a pair of goalie pads and skates each year is more than what a regular player would pay to get to get new gear they've out grown. This year all I had to get was skates, shin pads and pants, which was < $200.
Fair, and I am a goalie parent that has a kid that has a budget that we appreciate. However, you don't NEED to buy new stuff. Especially when they are young. I've bought mostly used items for my kid since he started. If you keep an eye on facebook marketplace, etc you can find a set of nicer pads for $200-300. Skates for $100 or less. etc.

Some things like Pants and Chesty are a bit tougher to buy used because they wear out quickly and are tough to size sometimes. But, its doable.

Re: Goaltender Incentives

by Guest » Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:11 am

Guest wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 4:29 pm
Guest wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:48 am
Guest wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:55 pm Our association has been told through the local hockey council that no one is allowed to offer any discounts to goalies.

Within the associations, they do offer goalie training for $10 per session.

The house leagues / local leagues can't keep goalie because they are constantly being plucked for rep teams.

There is a serious lack of goaltending across all levels.

Goalies should be offered a deep discount to sign up. Would help offset some of the costs you need for the equipment.

HC needs a First Shift for goalies.
LOL Sounds like another reason why OHF and HC suck... Sorry thats happening. If you have a goalie kid, move them to KSL - better opportunities for things like this. Also, the full size net from a young age is great development.
So KSL offers free registration for goalies?

The point was we need more goalies, and I would suggest most families balk due to registration, and equipment costs.


Not the amount of training they get, that is up to the individual.
There are a couple "free goalies" that I am aware of. My son is not "free" but he does get a very generous budget for training. Assuming we would have spent that money anyways (which we would have). We pay roughly 55-60% of what the skaters pay.

I have no complaints and I think its fair to the team, but also to us since they don't get the same "development" from practice.

Re: Goaltender Incentives

by Guest » Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:45 am

Guest wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:47 pm In addition to a goalie training budget, we offer steep discounts on the organization fees so long as the roster is full with 2 goalies. This is at the U14A level.

All-in, goalies pay about 60% of what a player does. I think its very fair.
I agree that goalies need to pay something but buying a pair of goalie pads and skates each year is more than what a regular player would pay to get to get new gear they've out grown. This year all I had to get was skates, shin pads and pants, which was < $200.

Re: Goaltender Incentives

by Guest » Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:47 pm

In addition to a goalie training budget, we offer steep discounts on the organization fees so long as the roster is full with 2 goalies. This is at the U14A level.

All-in, goalies pay about 60% of what a player does. I think its very fair.

Re: Goaltender Incentives

by Guest » Tue Sep 24, 2024 4:29 pm

Guest wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:48 am
Guest wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:55 pm Our association has been told through the local hockey council that no one is allowed to offer any discounts to goalies.

Within the associations, they do offer goalie training for $10 per session.

The house leagues / local leagues can't keep goalie because they are constantly being plucked for rep teams.

There is a serious lack of goaltending across all levels.

Goalies should be offered a deep discount to sign up. Would help offset some of the costs you need for the equipment.

HC needs a First Shift for goalies.
LOL Sounds like another reason why OHF and HC suck... Sorry thats happening. If you have a goalie kid, move them to KSL - better opportunities for things like this. Also, the full size net from a young age is great development.
So KSL offers free registration for goalies?

The point was we need more goalies, and I would suggest most families balk due to registration, and equipment costs.


Not the amount of training they get, that is up to the individual.

Re: Goaltender Incentives

by Guest » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:49 pm

Guest wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:54 pm Also need a better solution for rep teams all wanting 2 goalies. Backup playing 20-30% isn’t good for kids. I get AAA but at AA and A I’d love to see teams just roster one and make callups easier. Lower levels like house league struggling to just roster goalies for all teams.
Most smaller teams in my area are lucky to have one goalie never-mind two.

Re: Goaltender Incentives

by Guest » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:31 pm

Guest wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:48 am
Guest wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:55 pm Our association has been told through the local hockey council that no one is allowed to offer any discounts to goalies.

Within the associations, they do offer goalie training for $10 per session.

The house leagues / local leagues can't keep goalie because they are constantly being plucked for rep teams.

There is a serious lack of goaltending across all levels.

Goalies should be offered a deep discount to sign up. Would help offset some of the costs you need for the equipment.

HC needs a First Shift for goalies.
LOL Sounds like another reason why OHF and HC suck... Sorry thats happening. If you have a goalie kid, move them to KSL - better opportunities for things like this. Also, the full size net from a young age is great development.
I'm seeing way too many inexperienced goalies moving from HL after 1 year to rep. I know 3 goalies who have done this and know of another who never played goalie before and is on a BB team.

There is not an abundance of goalies in my area and HL is doing nothing to develop and keep their goalies. If you have the opportunity and the means to do so, why wouldn't you play rep?

Re: Goaltender Incentives

by Guest » Tue Sep 24, 2024 2:29 pm

Guest wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 8:45 am
Guest wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 7:57 am Does your association have goalie incentives at early ages?

I see all around that goaltenders are needed, or some are not great.

Should associations lower the registration fees to encourage more kids to become goalies? With the understanding they need to play at least a certain amount of season in net?

Some parents put their kid in net because their kid is not a strong skater, but goalies should be some of the best on team in relation to balance, mobility. Etc.

Thoughts?

Yes, lots of teams do. But, I'm sure some teams don't.

My kids U8 and U9 teams both have given us a goalie budget for goalie training all season. So, essentially we pay $2k less than other players on the team and the expectation is we take that money and spend it on goalie training. Which we do. That amount usually gets us through most of the season going weekly.

Other teams, instead of giving you the money will pay for you to goto whatever goalie training place they pick out for you, once a week or once every other week.

Some teams will bring in a goalie trainer for your practices weekly, etc.

I've heard of a handful of teams where the goalie plays for free for the season, which is great, but I don't know how common it is.


Very few teams do nothing at this point. If they do nothing, it's not a good look and it's honestly a bad idea. You need to invest in your goalie.
This is a great idea, I bet so many kids would play goalie if there were incentives

Re: Goaltender Incentives

by Guest » Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:50 am

Guest wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:54 pm Also need a better solution for rep teams all wanting 2 goalies. Backup playing 20-30% isn’t good for kids. I get AAA but at AA and A I’d love to see teams just roster one and make callups easier. Lower levels like house league struggling to just roster goalies for all teams.
Almost every team I know of does 50/50 for regular season games and round robin tournament games. Tournament finals and playoffs are a different story.

If any team is doing something different. Move on to another team. Thats garbage. Even AAA teams that I know of do not do that BS.

Re: Goaltender Incentives

by Guest » Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:48 am

Guest wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:55 pm Our association has been told through the local hockey council that no one is allowed to offer any discounts to goalies.

Within the associations, they do offer goalie training for $10 per session.

The house leagues / local leagues can't keep goalie because they are constantly being plucked for rep teams.

There is a serious lack of goaltending across all levels.

Goalies should be offered a deep discount to sign up. Would help offset some of the costs you need for the equipment.

HC needs a First Shift for goalies.
LOL Sounds like another reason why OHF and HC suck... Sorry thats happening. If you have a goalie kid, move them to KSL - better opportunities for things like this. Also, the full size net from a young age is great development.

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