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Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 9:13 am

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 8:27 am KLVR parents are psychos. That’s the problem.

Well they are better than everyone else

uhg, stop the non-sense.

Yes KSL kids made up most of the AAA teams that were any good last year, and yes, they will likely make up the good ones again this year.
But that doesn't mean kids in MD can't be good. They just need to do a bunch of "extra" to keep up generally. The deck is stacked against them:

Practices:

KSL: mandates 3 Practices a week minimum, most teams doing 4 with some time of either skills/skating coaching as part of it. Our team had a $2000 budget for goalies. Others had slightly different ones. Some goalies played for free.

OMHA: I am not sure what the mandate is, but most teams I know practiced twice a week. The two teams I am pretty close to parents on had skating coach out, but it was once a month. Nothing for goalies - no budget. The one team had an organizational wide day once a month for goalies.


Games:

KSL: 6 or 7 tournaments, all with a guarantee of 5 games each. So that's 30-35 games right off the top. Most teams did at least 10 exhibition games on top of those tournaments. Some did more. My team did 18 games. The exhibition games you schedule yourself, so you can be picky and play against teams that are similar skill. Plus tournament organizers do a pretty good job of moving teams around so they play competitive games. Sometimes its "embarassing" to people because they are playing an age group below, or a T1 team is forced to play T2 teams. But, its hands down the best part of the KSL.

OMHA: Regular scheduled games against set opponents. Most games are blow outs one direction or the other. Sometimes you get a good competitive match. Tournaments are one or two for the season if the team schedules them. Most of the best teams are breaking the rules and playing full ice "off the record games" and the teams not willing to, get crushed when full ice starts.


Rules:

KSL: Full ice, full rules all season long. From U7-U9 (plus Klevr Cubs if you include that on full ice small rinks like NTR).

OMHA: U9 Half ice until Jan and then full ice for a couple months. Prior to that, no rules, no face offs, no score keeping, buzzers for line changes, no icing, no offsides. Half size nets for U8 and U7.


I think this has been talked about at nauseum, but there are still TONS of parents I am meeting at AAA tryouts where little Jimmzy was the best kid on the ice at their MD program for the last three years; they are showing up to AAA tryouts asking WTF is happening? Where did these kids come from? What are those stickers on their helmet?

Most MD kids have looked out of place at tryouts. There have been a few exceptions where the odd player fits in. Many parents didn’t realize this was happening with the widening gap due to KSL but it did over the last two years. Even most OMHA teams taking KSL except for a few like Markham and who will see the struggle. We were in the fence with regards to KSL and glad we made the move. Some parents we knew stayed MD and we see the difference as it is quite apparent. It is what it is.

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:03 pm Most MD kids have looked out of place at tryouts. There have been a few exceptions where the odd player fits in. Many parents didn’t realize this was happening with the widening gap due to KSL but it did over the last two years. Even most OMHA teams taking KSL except for a few like Markham and who will see the struggle. We were in the fence with regards to KSL and glad we made the move. Some parents we knew stayed MD and we see the difference as it is quite apparent. It is what it is.

I don't know where people are getting this info, but Markham is largely going to be made up of KSL kids. A bunch have already signed.

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:14 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:03 pm Most MD kids have looked out of place at tryouts. There have been a few exceptions where the odd player fits in. Many parents didn’t realize this was happening with the widening gap due to KSL but it did over the last two years. Even most OMHA teams taking KSL except for a few like Markham and who will see the struggle. We were in the fence with regards to KSL and glad we made the move. Some parents we knew stayed MD and we see the difference as it is quite apparent. It is what it is.

I don't know where people are getting this info, but Markham is largely going to be made up of KSL kids. A bunch have already signed.

Yse took 5 md kids. Depends on who the md coach is, can develop just the same without dropping a small house payment on 8 year old hockey. It is what it is.

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:14 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:03 pm Most MD kids have looked out of place at tryouts. There have been a few exceptions where the odd player fits in. Many parents didn’t realize this was happening with the widening gap due to KSL but it did over the last two years. Even most OMHA teams taking KSL except for a few like Markham and who will see the struggle. We were in the fence with regards to KSL and glad we made the move. Some parents we knew stayed MD and we see the difference as it is quite apparent. It is what it is.

I don't know where people are getting this info, but Markham is largely going to be made up of KSL kids. A bunch have already signed.

Majority of the KSL kids they signed were Tier 2 KSL kids. The coaching staff didn't seem to have the greatest eye for talents. It's too bad, they could've actually had a good team if they chose properly and not commit to some of the other players too early. The team signed 8 kids after the first tryout without any battles or game. Lucky for those players as their weakness showed in game setting the next day.

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 6:45 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:14 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:03 pm Most MD kids have looked out of place at tryouts. There have been a few exceptions where the odd player fits in. Many parents didn’t realize this was happening with the widening gap due to KSL but it did over the last two years. Even most OMHA teams taking KSL except for a few like Markham and who will see the struggle. We were in the fence with regards to KSL and glad we made the move. Some parents we knew stayed MD and we see the difference as it is quite apparent. It is what it is.

I don't know where people are getting this info, but Markham is largely going to be made up of KSL kids. A bunch have already signed.

Majority of the KSL kids they signed were Tier 2 KSL kids. The coaching staff didn't seem to have the greatest eye for talents. It's too bad, they could've actually had a good team if they chose properly and not commit to some of the other players too early. The team signed 8 kids after the first tryout without any battles or game. Lucky for those players as their weakness showed in game setting the next day.

Agree, I heard they signed couple of kids after drill without game, some of the kids even have hard time sign a AA team. …..unbelievable.

Most MD kids have looked out of place at tryouts. There have been a few exceptions where the odd player fits in. Many parents didn’t realize this was happening with the widening gap due to KSL but it did over the last two years. Even most OMHA teams taking KSL except for a few like Markham and who will see the struggle. We were in the fence with regards to KSL and glad we made the move. Some parents we knew stayed MD and we see the difference as it is quite apparent. It is what it is.
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I don't know where people are getting this info, but Markham is largely going to be made up of KSL kids. A bunch have already signed.
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Majority of the KSL kids they signed were Tier 2 KSL kids. The coaching staff didn't seem to have the greatest eye for talents. It's too bad, they could've actually had a good team if they chose properly and not commit to some of the other players too early. The team signed 8 kids after the first tryout without any battles or game. Lucky for those players as their weakness showed in game setting the next day.
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Agree, I heard they signed couple of kids after drill without game, some of the kids even have hard time sign a AA team. …..unbelievable.
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Sound like the coach doesn't have as much "experience" as 1 person previously stated. Wonder if the parents know the coach JW has a 15 game suspension?

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 8:48 am Most MD kids have looked out of place at tryouts. There have been a few exceptions where the odd player fits in. Many parents didn’t realize this was happening with the widening gap due to KSL but it did over the last two years. Even most OMHA teams taking KSL except for a few like Markham and who will see the struggle. We were in the fence with regards to KSL and glad we made the move. Some parents we knew stayed MD and we see the difference as it is quite apparent. It is what it is.

I don't know where people are getting this info, but Markham is largely going to be made up of KSL kids. A bunch have already signed.
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Majority of the KSL kids they signed were Tier 2 KSL kids. The coaching staff didn't seem to have the greatest eye for talents. It's too bad, they could've actually had a good team if they chose properly and not commit to some of the other players too early. The team signed 8 kids after the first tryout without any battles or game. Lucky for those players as their weakness showed in game setting the next day.
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Agree, I heard they signed couple of kids after drill without game, some of the kids even have hard time sign a AA team. …..unbelievable.
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Sound like the coach doesn't have as much "experience" as 1 person previously stated. Wonder if the parents know the coach JW has a 15 game suspension?
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The head coach is experienced but just doesn't have knowledge of 2016 players and didn't bother asking around to do background work on the players he signed and cut. One of the assistant coach he has parades around wearing a Klevr hat which is just not a good look in an OMHA team and event. Goes to show you the overall staffing team just didn't have good preparation going into this tryout.

The MD kids weren’t good enough for aaa at U7 and no one let them know. Don’t be shocked minor development didn’t get you to where the experienced qualified KSL coaches got there kids. MD = house league

Where has he coached? I know a family up north and apparently he was not well liked in ND and he didn't coach this year. Was a "helper" the year before.